1 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:12,970 [Music] 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:16,800 this hope radio for the masses headliner 3 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:20,610 between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force 4 00:00:24,650 --> 00:00:22,800 was announced and applying the has been 5 00:00:27,019 --> 00:00:24,660 found and is now in the possession of 6 00:00:30,980 --> 00:00:27,029 the RA the game is rigged 7 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:30,990 change the game changer I occasionally 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:33,840 think how quickly our differences 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:37,530 worldwide would vanish if we were facing 10 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:41,250 an alien threat from outside his way 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:43,040 [Music] 12 00:00:48,250 --> 00:00:45,530 [Applause] 13 00:00:51,220 --> 00:00:48,260 this is fade to black with your host 14 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:51,230 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 15 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:53,150 network and K GRA 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:54,640 the global rain 17 00:00:58,279 --> 00:00:56,490 Alliance 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:00:58,289 [Music] 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:01,010 I mean your health to the 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:03,410 1985 21 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:07,090 [Music] 22 00:01:11,399 --> 00:01:09,280 you are listening to fade to black with 23 00:01:12,210 --> 00:01:11,409 Jimmy judge on the game change in that 24 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:12,220 word 25 00:01:26,380 --> 00:01:16,380 [Music] 26 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:26,390 yeah man take the black radio for some 27 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:37,590 masses today's Wednesday January 17th 17 28 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:40,500 days into the new year just 348 days 29 00:01:44,859 --> 00:01:41,970 left and we are live from a bunker 30 00:01:46,969 --> 00:01:44,869 somewhere in downtown Burbank California 31 00:01:49,460 --> 00:01:46,979 and I would like to welcome everybody 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:49,470 listening all around the world all 33 00:01:53,690 --> 00:01:51,690 across the United States hither and 34 00:01:57,710 --> 00:01:53,700 thither to and fro back and forth up and 35 00:02:02,570 --> 00:01:57,720 down east and west north and south far 36 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:02,580 and near this is fade to black for kjc 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:05,550 are the game changer Network and K GRA 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:07,170 the planet I'm your host Jimmy Church 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:09,850 good evening everybody how you doin 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:11,330 [Music] 41 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:21,210 tonight we have two guests to la 42 00:02:28,030 --> 00:02:23,480 Marzulli is up first tonight in the 43 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:28,040 first hour to talk about the DNA results 44 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:30,350 that are in from the elongated skulls 45 00:02:38,290 --> 00:02:33,950 from Peru all right so that's the first 46 00:02:42,610 --> 00:02:38,300 hour tonight yeah are you ready for that 47 00:02:44,110 --> 00:02:42,620 and then later rickshaw in the second 48 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:44,120 hour to talk about the near-death 49 00:02:49,810 --> 00:02:46,880 experience and also the best of Watchers 50 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:49,820 DVD that is out coming out I think it's 51 00:02:55,390 --> 00:02:53,270 out and we'll talk about that the 52 00:02:59,950 --> 00:02:55,400 Watchers series which I have here by the 53 00:03:02,140 --> 00:02:59,960 way is a pretty pretty dang amazing all 54 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:02,150 of them I look back and I think about 55 00:03:08,530 --> 00:03:05,870 Watchers five Watchers six watts or 56 00:03:12,130 --> 00:03:08,540 seven Watchers eight right 57 00:03:17,710 --> 00:03:12,140 oh just amazing DVDs and so we'll talk 58 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:17,720 about that tonight and now I'm kidding 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:20,480 text from Steve Murillo Murillo if 60 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:22,850 you're listening I'm live on the air 61 00:03:27,370 --> 00:03:25,550 Murillo okay no texting during the show 62 00:03:29,050 --> 00:03:27,380 now 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00:03:56,000 now you can also email throughout the 77 00:04:02,310 --> 00:03:59,030 show I'll get to as many as I can the 78 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:02,320 email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com 79 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:09,230 ah yes you know before I move on the 80 00:04:15,370 --> 00:04:12,590 video that we posted and took down 81 00:04:21,190 --> 00:04:15,380 yesterday of the satellite the feedback 82 00:04:23,290 --> 00:04:21,200 that look it's so funny the video is a 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:23,300 real video the video is an amazing video 84 00:04:27,790 --> 00:04:25,250 the capture of what is in the video 85 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,800 which appears to be the grace a 86 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:29,120 satellite system 87 00:04:33,969 --> 00:04:31,430 is amazing and it's up close and it's in 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:33,979 color and there it is and racing by and 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:37,250 and NASA zooms in and you know and I 90 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:39,530 freaked out because I didn't see a 91 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:43,280 satellite in my life that was like that 92 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:47,630 right you know what okay everybody look 93 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:51,320 Jason Martel's calling hey Jason I'm on 94 00:04:58,840 --> 00:04:53,449 I'm on the air right now and so are you 95 00:04:59,890 --> 00:04:58,850 no no I'm literally hold on I'm gonna 96 00:05:06,310 --> 00:04:59,900 put you on speaker 97 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:06,320 okay say hi to everybody hey man I'll 98 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:08,449 call you back after the show is life 99 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:16,880 good you know see this is how important 100 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:21,050 you are Jason live on the air I see yeah 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:23,720 I know right I had to pick up I had to 102 00:05:31,870 --> 00:05:27,010 pick up I'll call you after the show but 103 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:31,880 geez is that but he's somebody throwing 104 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:34,880 them completely under the bus at that 105 00:05:40,690 --> 00:05:38,870 video the reaction that I have gotten is 106 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:40,700 this okay man it may be the gray 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:43,190 satellite but why pull it down let us 108 00:05:49,810 --> 00:05:47,690 argue over it let us check it out it may 109 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:49,820 be the grace it may not be but but the 110 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:51,830 video was there you pull it down you're 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:54,740 freaking everybody out put it up and and 112 00:06:04,210 --> 00:05:58,849 keep it up and let us fight female over 113 00:06:06,189 --> 00:06:04,220 and over again with that point you know 114 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:06,199 why would you want a video of a 115 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:08,630 satellite up that I don't want that that 116 00:06:14,350 --> 00:06:10,639 I think looks like a UFO when it does 117 00:06:19,330 --> 00:06:14,360 but and it turns out to be a satellite I 118 00:06:21,219 --> 00:06:19,340 mean why right but so with all of this 119 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:21,229 evidence that's out on the gray 120 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:23,750 satellite and stuff and the things that 121 00:06:30,310 --> 00:06:26,780 I know now I'll tell you what I'll make 122 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:30,320 you a deal I'll redo the video fresh 123 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:32,780 narration with the grace satellite 124 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:34,430 information in there and some gray 125 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:38,870 satellite graphics and I'll put it up 126 00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:40,550 there and I'll let you guys fight it out 127 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:42,470 all right 128 00:06:47,620 --> 00:06:45,650 I'll let the comments just just go and 129 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:47,630 you guys can Duke it out but there is 130 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:50,990 some interesting stuff in that video not 131 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:53,630 just with what looks like the gray 132 00:06:59,490 --> 00:06:55,040 satellites but there is a third object 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:06:59,500 in the video and that's the part where I 134 00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:02,090 should have probably left the video up 135 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:05,390 because there is a third object there 136 00:07:09,610 --> 00:07:07,610 that pops up that has nothing to do with 137 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:09,620 the grace if it is the grace may not be 138 00:07:14,740 --> 00:07:12,160 the grades I don't know but so I'm gonna 139 00:07:16,210 --> 00:07:14,750 I'll do that for you guys I'll do for 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:16,220 the community and I'll get it back up 141 00:07:19,330 --> 00:07:17,690 there knowledge you guys Duke it out you 142 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:19,340 guys and I'm just letting you know now 143 00:07:22,510 --> 00:07:21,770 I'm not gonna get involved that's all on 144 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:22,520 you 145 00:07:28,510 --> 00:07:26,450 time on that I got to recut the 146 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:28,520 narration our next 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Jim Carrey is 56 star 189 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:19,819 of one of the most famous YouTube videos 190 00:09:26,769 --> 00:09:22,370 of all time Jim Carrey on the red carpet 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:26,779 in New York City we're all we're all 192 00:09:35,079 --> 00:09:29,810 what does he say tetrahedrons man is a 193 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:35,089 oh man Jim Carrey and there's a really 194 00:09:44,619 --> 00:09:41,120 good documentary out on him making the 195 00:09:46,540 --> 00:09:44,629 movie the man on the moon right okay and 196 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:46,550 if you haven't seen it go watch that 197 00:09:51,610 --> 00:09:48,769 documentary I don't I don't know what 198 00:09:54,579 --> 00:09:51,620 it's called but that is a showstopper go 199 00:10:02,100 --> 00:09:54,589 check it out but happy birthday to today 200 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:02,110 wait for it Betty White is 96 years old 201 00:10:13,869 --> 00:10:08,269 Betty White 96 Kid Rock today is 47 and 202 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:13,879 Darth Vader James Earl Jones today is 87 203 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:16,550 our dead guys birthday today is the one 204 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:20,990 and only Eartha Kitt 1927 to 2008 died 205 00:10:26,139 --> 00:10:23,899 at the age of 81 but yes most remember 206 00:10:28,210 --> 00:10:26,149 her as a singer right cabaret all of 207 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:28,220 that stuff that she did when she did 208 00:10:32,949 --> 00:10:29,809 that Santa Claus song 209 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:32,959 what was it hello Santa and most people 210 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:35,839 think of that I don't that not me she 211 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:38,800 was Catwoman on Batman 212 00:10:45,970 --> 00:10:42,019 happy birthday she replaced what's her 213 00:10:47,470 --> 00:10:45,980 name ah Newman what was her name Julie 214 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:47,480 Newman I can't remember the first 215 00:10:51,639 --> 00:10:50,240 Catwoman anyway that's Eartha Kitt to me 216 00:10:58,319 --> 00:10:51,649 is Catwoman I'm Batman 217 00:11:01,449 --> 00:10:58,329 ot D on this day in history 1961 218 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:01,459 Dwight D Eisenhower and his presidential 219 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:04,569 term by warning the nation and the world 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:07,220 about the increasing power of the 221 00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:09,170 military-industrial complex 222 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:12,620 the famous speech live on television on 223 00:11:20,650 --> 00:11:15,560 this day in 1961 now here we go fader 224 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:20,660 fact check this out in a study following 225 00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:25,970 the lives of nineteen thousand kids for 226 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:26,750 ten years 227 00:11:31,950 --> 00:11:30,350 a study nineteen thousand kids for ten 228 00:11:35,260 --> 00:11:31,960 years I think that's a pretty good 229 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:35,270 number that's a pretty good pool right 230 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:38,180 nineteen thousand kids for ten years the 231 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:41,090 studies showed that video games had no 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:45,200 negative social behavior effects on our 233 00:11:53,290 --> 00:11:49,810 children Julie Newmar I said Newman 234 00:11:56,290 --> 00:11:53,300 Newmar thank you for that yeah Julie 235 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:56,300 Newmar she was cool yeah nineteen 236 00:12:03,010 --> 00:11:58,970 thousand kids ten years no negative 237 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:03,020 social behavior effects I almost don't 238 00:12:05,410 --> 00:12:03,860 buy it 239 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:05,420 everybody popped up with that Julie 240 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:08,630 Newmar and I'm gonna say that everybody 241 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:14,570 said Julie Newmar here it was a guy it 242 00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:17,870 was a guy maybe not maybe not maybe not 243 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:20,300 maybe not that would be that would be 244 00:12:25,780 --> 00:12:23,690 politically incorrect alright yeah 245 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:25,790 nineteen thousand kids ten years tonight 246 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:28,970 two guests first hour la Marzulli is up 247 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:29,660 first 248 00:12:34,570 --> 00:12:31,760 to talk about the DNA results from the 249 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:34,580 elongated skulls from Peru and laid 250 00:12:38,590 --> 00:12:37,430 around in the second hour rickshaw it's 251 00:12:40,780 --> 00:12:38,600 going to be here to talk about the 252 00:12:44,050 --> 00:12:40,790 near-death experience and of course the 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:44,060 best of Watchers DVD all right tomorrow 254 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:45,410 is another fader night with Jon 255 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:47,330 Rappoport and his no more fake newsroom 256 00:12:55,150 --> 00:12:49,850 followed by open lines all night long 257 00:13:05,170 --> 00:12:55,160 well it happened I mentioned River moon 258 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:05,180 coffee bitcoin I mentioned Bitcoin now 259 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:10,490 four years ago on this program on one of 260 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:14,510 the it was a moment when I got into a 261 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:16,730 little bit of a tiff with one of our 262 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:19,100 guest on the show I'm trying to think 263 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:22,130 who it was I remember the well the it 264 00:13:27,069 --> 00:13:22,850 was from 265 00:13:33,309 --> 00:13:27,079 quid or it was Ecuador but we started to 266 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:33,319 get into it on Bitcoin and I have talked 267 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:35,930 about Bitcoin a lot on the show and for 268 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:39,920 a lot of different reasons but it's it's 269 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:44,480 a big deal and it's a big deal or for 270 00:13:47,740 --> 00:13:46,310 those that are against it it's a big 271 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:47,750 deal and they're gonna stay there it's a 272 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:49,279 big deal for those that think it's the 273 00:13:55,090 --> 00:13:51,529 next big thing and no regulation so that 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:55,100 sits there too as well and there's money 275 00:14:02,079 --> 00:13:59,170 being made and lost on Bitcoin 276 00:14:05,740 --> 00:14:02,089 bucketloads truckloads of money are 277 00:14:09,970 --> 00:14:05,750 going down right now with it lots of 278 00:14:14,819 --> 00:14:09,980 energy is being spent on Bitcoin right 279 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:14,829 now in Russia there are people buying 280 00:14:25,090 --> 00:14:20,569 electric plants yes to power the mining 281 00:14:27,999 --> 00:14:25,100 that is needed for Bitcoin now there's a 282 00:14:30,490 --> 00:14:28,009 few bitcoins left out there that need to 283 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,500 be mined I'm not gonna get into those 284 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:32,959 numbers now but when you mine a Bitcoin 285 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:35,360 it used to be I forget what if you mind 286 00:14:42,370 --> 00:14:40,220 a Bitcoin you were given 50 bitcoins or 287 00:14:45,850 --> 00:14:42,380 100 bitcoins there was a number now and 288 00:14:50,650 --> 00:14:45,860 back then let's go back five six seven 289 00:14:52,569 --> 00:14:50,660 eight years ago when he mined a Bitcoin 290 00:14:54,999 --> 00:14:52,579 and you got 50 bitcoins it was worth 291 00:14:57,460 --> 00:14:55,009 whatever you know it was worth you know 292 00:15:00,850 --> 00:14:57,470 $50 each you know then it went up to 293 00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:00,860 $100 and there but now mine a Bitcoin 294 00:15:07,530 --> 00:15:03,470 today when you're looking at 10 15 20 295 00:15:11,819 --> 00:15:07,540 thousand dollars a pop it's a big deal 296 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:11,829 right well check this out 297 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:16,399 last night at the end of trading Bitcoin 298 00:15:22,929 --> 00:15:20,870 had dropped below ten thousand dollars 299 00:15:26,290 --> 00:15:22,939 nine and a half thousand dollars more 300 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:26,300 than that just a second but it lost 301 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:30,769 almost ten grand in exactly four weeks 302 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:33,860 because it was at nineteen thousand 303 00:15:36,820 --> 00:15:35,360 three hundred and forty-three dollars 304 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:36,830 that peak value 305 00:15:45,610 --> 00:15:41,090 on December 16 2017 the day of 306 00:15:49,510 --> 00:15:45,620 disclosure is that irony the definition 307 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:49,520 of irony at its finest right there but 308 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:51,530 as of seven o'clock last night it was 309 00:15:57,850 --> 00:15:53,630 nine thousand five hundred and fifty 310 00:16:04,240 --> 00:15:57,860 five dollars holy crap that's a bucket 311 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:04,250 load of money now I feel for anyone who 312 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,240 borrowed money last month 313 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:09,680 bitcoins just rising I mean it's just 314 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:12,410 like it's free money right free money go 315 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:14,690 and buy this sell it buy it this morning 316 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:16,520 selling this afternoon makes him cash 317 00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:19,760 right that's what it was lying and for 318 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:22,750 anybody that last month prior to 319 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:25,970 December 16th that went out there and 320 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:29,990 borrowed money borrowed money took a 321 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:33,260 mortgage out on the house to go and get 322 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:36,470 in on this Bitcoin thing think about 323 00:16:43,660 --> 00:16:38,870 that I feel sorry I feel for it I have 324 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:43,670 empathy because if you lost that money 325 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:46,880 let's say you got in at 19 grand and and 326 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:51,770 last night so you lost $9,000 right you 327 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:55,070 lost 9 grand in this market well you 328 00:17:00,730 --> 00:16:58,160 lost it no biggie but you still if you 329 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:00,740 borrowed money you still have to pay 330 00:17:09,010 --> 00:17:05,570 back that loan right so you lost the 331 00:17:13,090 --> 00:17:09,020 value you lost the value so you lost 332 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:13,100 that 10 grand and you still have to pay 333 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:19,010 back the loan ouch I mean seriously 334 00:17:27,699 --> 00:17:23,930 ouch ouch ouch ouch that's money that 335 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:27,709 has disappeared it's gone now 336 00:17:32,110 --> 00:17:30,350 you may be able to sit on it and you 337 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:32,120 might be able to get it back and ride 338 00:17:40,030 --> 00:17:36,560 this out okay but let me explain 339 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:40,040 something here the stock market is one 340 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:42,050 thing and people are looking at Bitcoin 341 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:44,320 as an investment like the stock market 342 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:46,670 let me explain the difference between 343 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:49,130 Bitcoin in the stock market the 344 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:52,640 fool of Jimmy so just listen to me right 345 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:54,590 now okay 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:17:58,400 it's your education on when you buy a 347 00:18:08,260 --> 00:18:04,730 stock you buy a stock you own a piece of 348 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:08,270 the company and that company probably 349 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:14,270 should have most two assets assets like 350 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:18,950 maybe a factory factory they've got a 351 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:21,590 labor force all right 352 00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:26,470 they've got inventory you can touch it 353 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:28,670 something goes wrong with that stock 354 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:30,050 something goes wrong with the fact 355 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:32,000 they're selling off assets and things 356 00:18:37,630 --> 00:18:34,910 and you know you are not ever protected 357 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:37,640 in the stock market but at least you can 358 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:40,070 drive to the factory and look at it 359 00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:44,930 right it exists okay there's something 360 00:18:51,610 --> 00:18:48,340 about that you physically can touch it 361 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:51,620 now there has been uh there's been 362 00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:54,290 fraudulent stuff on the stock market 363 00:19:03,220 --> 00:18:57,560 over the years I can get into all of 364 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:03,230 that but without going there stock 365 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:05,330 market is a tough thing to get into 366 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:08,090 whether it's Nasdaq which is easier but 367 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:09,710 if you get a stock on to the New York 368 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:13,490 Stock Exchange there is so much vetting 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:16,400 that goes on to to get on to the New 370 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:18,530 York Stock Exchange and if you buy a 371 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,010 stock in AT&T you buy a stock in 372 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:24,320 something like that Verizon or General 373 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:26,510 Motors or Samsung or whatever whatever 374 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,410 it is McDonald's I don't care 375 00:19:39,910 --> 00:19:31,520 physically you know that these things 376 00:19:46,180 --> 00:19:39,920 exist okay now with Bitcoin you own 377 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:46,190 nothing you own nothing nada nothing the 378 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:50,060 only thing that you own with Bitcoin and 379 00:20:00,670 --> 00:19:53,510 listen to me now and learn something the 380 00:20:02,590 --> 00:20:00,680 only thing that you own is that you own 381 00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:02,600 that the hope 382 00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:07,220 someone will pay you more than what you 383 00:20:17,169 --> 00:20:12,950 paid for it that's what you own that's 384 00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:17,179 what you own that's it now that's a 385 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:23,230 crazy thought that my friends is 386 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:27,520 gambling it's nothing more than that 387 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:31,850 it's nothing more you when you purchase 388 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:36,440 a Bitcoin you are hoping that somebody 389 00:20:41,649 --> 00:20:39,289 is going to purchase that Bitcoin for 390 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:41,659 from you more than you've paid for it 391 00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:46,760 that's it there's nothing physical to it 392 00:20:54,190 --> 00:20:52,220 now when IRAs started when when all of 393 00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:54,200 this happened back in December and and 394 00:20:59,230 --> 00:20:56,750 that banks were gonna get involved and 395 00:21:02,260 --> 00:20:59,240 suddenly you were able to invest into 396 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:02,270 Bitcoin for an IRA for your retirement I 397 00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:05,210 had to take a step back what are we 398 00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:07,820 doing here you are written 399 00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:11,150 I mean seriously gonna risk your future 400 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:14,990 on something that is nothing that's 401 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:19,250 crazy to me and for those out there just 402 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:22,970 like that stock market crash in 2008 and 403 00:21:28,510 --> 00:21:26,120 I went I went through that we all did 404 00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:28,520 and there was another crash that was 405 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:33,740 back in like 1998 with the tech stocks 406 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:35,390 and and the Internet 407 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:37,490 that was a serious bubble that we went 408 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:39,049 through too because I was watching my 409 00:21:46,210 --> 00:21:43,370 IRA like double every week it was crazy 410 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:46,220 and I put all of that into high high 411 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:49,280 risk tax stocks because it was just 412 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:51,590 going through the roof and then one day 413 00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:53,809 and I felt it coming man I felt it 414 00:21:57,700 --> 00:21:56,030 coming and I I pulled out what I could 415 00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:57,710 out of that and the next thing you know 416 00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:00,559 it was like a week later my IRA was it 417 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:07,419 was like zero great the ease of trading 418 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:12,320 right now on your cell phone on your 419 00:22:16,370 --> 00:22:15,350 cell phone you can go and get onto some 420 00:22:18,980 --> 00:22:16,380 coin X big 421 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:18,990 coin exchange and throwing your info 422 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:21,210 there whether it's your your your 423 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,400 checking account or your debit card and 424 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:25,200 it's easier with the debit card but you 425 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:27,300 can go and do that and you can go and 426 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:29,430 buy you know twenty dollars worth of a 427 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:31,260 Bitcoin forty dollars worth of a Bitcoin 428 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,510 and let it sit there right and you can 429 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,520 do a debit card done transaction 430 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:38,400 completed instantly on something that 431 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:39,690 doesn't exist 432 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:42,090 and that is crazy that is a bad 433 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:44,490 temptation for people out there gambling 434 00:22:49,790 --> 00:22:48,030 like that is a temptation and for those 435 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:49,800 out there that can can't control 436 00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:52,980 themselves right it's it's it's not a 437 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,240 good thing it's just not now I'm not 438 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:00,240 saying you should i enjoy going to Vegas 439 00:23:04,910 --> 00:23:02,610 I enjoy the casinos I enjoy I have a 440 00:23:08,060 --> 00:23:04,920 good time but that's with money that you 441 00:23:10,580 --> 00:23:08,070 can go in it's vacation money it's money 442 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:10,590 that you're gonna throw away so if you 443 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:13,290 have money if you have so much money 444 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:15,780 that you can throw it away whatever it 445 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:19,500 is $20 $40 $100 you could take $100 bill 446 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:21,900 walk out into the street and just throw 447 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:23,490 it in the street and not care about it 448 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:26,190 if you're like that then go and get into 449 00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:28,110 Bitcoin but for somebody that is going 450 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:33,000 to borrow money and go out invest into 451 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:35,490 Bitcoin that's a bad position to be in 452 00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:38,610 because today with what happened with 453 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:41,270 Bitcoin you have to pay that loan back 454 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:43,250 you have to pay it back 455 00:23:50,270 --> 00:23:47,520 now I equate all of this and this was 456 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:50,280 posted up on Twitter today and I I stole 457 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:53,570 the idea I stole it and I admit it but 458 00:24:00,560 --> 00:23:56,810 beanie babies remember beanie babies 459 00:24:04,550 --> 00:24:00,570 okay I went through a bad bad bad beanie 460 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,560 baby time I did I had a daughter beanie 461 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:06,960 babies are happening they're giving him 462 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:10,650 away free at McDonald's and and my 463 00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:12,570 daughter's wanted them every single day 464 00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:14,940 so I jumped in on the beanie baby thing 465 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:16,590 and I started you know to collect him I 466 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:18,600 was buying him everywhere you know 2 3 4 467 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:20,610 bucks then I find out that there are 468 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,530 some beanie babies out there that are 469 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:25,200 worth thousands you know there are some 470 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:27,990 limited edition bears out there for that 471 00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:29,730 you could buy for 472 00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:33,000 you know $20 30 40 $50 and in a week 473 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:34,860 later they were selling for a hundred I 474 00:24:40,550 --> 00:24:38,220 dumped in man I did I was on a business 475 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:40,560 trip I'm in Nashville and I'm with a 476 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,090 couple of friends Rawling this beanie 477 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:45,000 baby thing be me being worthless beanie 478 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:47,880 babies and we're searching out stores in 479 00:24:52,460 --> 00:24:50,070 Nashville to go and we're going in and 480 00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:52,470 and I'm whipping up the charge card and 481 00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:54,660 I'm buying them this beanie first 75 oh 482 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:56,580 you got one of these oh man I'll take 483 00:25:00,380 --> 00:24:58,800 that one all you've got the Olympic bear 484 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,390 or whatever I don't even know now and 485 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:02,400 I'm buying these things I'm coming back 486 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:05,220 to LA with my beanie baby stash you know 487 00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:07,650 I just dropped a grand on beanie babies 488 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:10,230 and got the collection going and a 489 00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:12,530 couple of years later they were 490 00:25:22,570 --> 00:25:18,300 worthless worthless I had and Rita will 491 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:22,580 tell you this I had we are in Rita and I 492 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:27,510 to hefty bags garbage bags full of 493 00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:30,450 beanie babies I can't even tell you how 494 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:33,000 much I spent you know what we did with 495 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:40,860 those we gave them what toy store walked 496 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,630 in i think the toy the doll shop and I 497 00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:47,520 go dude I got this I got this you know 498 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,020 check out these these are worth it you 499 00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:50,640 know a thousand dollars each the guy 500 00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:52,200 that owned the doll shop he goes come 501 00:25:56,450 --> 00:25:53,880 here he takes me down into the basement 502 00:25:58,910 --> 00:25:56,460 into the basement walks me into this 503 00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:58,920 room I'm not making any of this up 504 00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:01,260 into this room that was full of garbage 505 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:02,820 bags on the floor and you go see those 506 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,520 those are beanie babies I can't sell 507 00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:07,440 those I can't give them away that one 508 00:26:11,150 --> 00:26:09,630 that you just showed me whatever you 509 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:11,160 know there's thousand-dollar beanie baby 510 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:13,170 walks me over to this garbage that opens 511 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:16,110 it up and it was full of these whenever 512 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:18,900 they were some crazy thing I said are 513 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:20,910 you kidding me because now man they're 514 00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:23,460 worthless I said how much you give me 515 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:25,140 for these two bags right here I'm not 516 00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:27,810 kidding twenty bucks 517 00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:31,080 I took the $20 I gave him the tube 518 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:33,960 garbage bags full of beanie babies and I 519 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:36,900 walked out of there and I cut loose of 520 00:26:42,410 --> 00:26:41,040 that beanie babies are the same things 521 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:42,420 as as Bitcoin 522 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:44,370 X 523 00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:47,770 except at least with beanie babies you 524 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:50,559 had the garbage bags full that you could 525 00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,510 touch in the end if Bitcoin goes bye-bye 526 00:27:01,380 --> 00:26:58,480 the market crashes and they're all 527 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:01,390 worthless they're worth $1 each five 528 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:03,910 cents whatever the only thing you're 529 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:08,080 gonna have is you're gonna have you're 530 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:10,450 gonna have one of these you're gonna 531 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:13,960 have a USB Drive with your Bitcoin 532 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:17,500 wallet with your 50 bitcoins on it that 533 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:18,580 are worth nothing 534 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:21,010 that's your memory holding it up to the 535 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:24,190 video camera and that's that's the truth 536 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:27,340 need to be very very careful what were 537 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:30,010 beanie babies were it was a craze it was 538 00:27:36,030 --> 00:27:33,160 an invented thing it was invented there 539 00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:36,040 was no value to beanie baby they're 540 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:38,740 brand-new they're not 25 50 years old 541 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:40,870 they're not antiques and it's the same 542 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:45,100 thing with Bitcoin it's a craze that's 543 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:47,980 all it is and and I get it and this is 544 00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:50,770 the thing and I do I get it here's the 545 00:27:57,690 --> 00:27:52,120 reason why I don't have a problem with 546 00:27:59,850 --> 00:27:57,700 Bitcoin it's because some nerds and in 547 00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,860 this case it appears to be Japanese are 548 00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:02,320 sitting around and you know come up with 549 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:04,059 this idea you know let's create some 550 00:28:09,780 --> 00:28:07,270 software money let's create some 551 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:09,790 software buddy let's see what happens 552 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:12,610 right let's see what happens okay cool 553 00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:16,000 whatever I get it I'm into that and it 554 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,280 sounds good but without regulation and 555 00:28:22,590 --> 00:28:20,559 oversight which is what the nerd culture 556 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:22,600 wants and understands right it's all 557 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:24,340 about anarchy and I get that I 558 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:27,010 understand it but in the end you end up 559 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:30,570 finding out that sometimes a few rules 560 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:33,970 existing on the outside is not a bad 561 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:36,880 thing sometimes you need a little bit of 562 00:28:42,450 --> 00:28:38,860 the man in your life 563 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:42,460 and maybe these crashes in this thing 564 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:44,440 wouldn't wouldn't happen maybe there 565 00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:47,230 could be some insurance that could be 566 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:49,270 there from the government in the future 567 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:52,270 maybe make it that kind of currency and 568 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:56,080 and we'll be okay I'm just saying it's a 569 00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,200 hard lesson to 570 00:29:01,360 --> 00:28:59,600 and for everybody out there that's got 571 00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,370 to pay off that second mortgage that 572 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:04,159 they got on the house last month and you 573 00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:06,110 know hundreds of thousands of dollars 574 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,120 that they invested into this market and 575 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:11,200 then in four weeks four weeks that 576 00:29:17,529 --> 00:29:15,710 $200,000 loan that they got is now that 577 00:29:19,779 --> 00:29:17,539 that Bitcoin investment is worth a 578 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:19,789 hundred grand you've lost that hundred 579 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:21,350 grand and you still have to pay back the 580 00:29:25,419 --> 00:29:24,590 mortgage of two hundred thousand think 581 00:29:27,789 --> 00:29:25,429 about that 582 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:27,799 this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy 583 00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:30,409 Church I'll be right back with our first 584 00:29:33,129 --> 00:29:31,100 guest tonight 585 00:29:36,879 --> 00:29:33,139 la Marzulli we're gonna be talking about 586 00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:36,889 the elongated skulls of Peru and the DNA 587 00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:39,470 results that are in I'll be right back 588 00:30:02,960 --> 00:29:40,680 stay with us 589 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:02,970 [Music] 590 00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:06,000 you're listening to Jimmy Church fade to 591 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:12,090 fade to black will now pause for a 592 00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:23,580 che GRA radio when you take the beans 593 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:26,380 from Central America with dashes of 594 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:28,809 indonesian and african mixed in and then 595 00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:31,210 roast it to the dark side of fade to 596 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:34,059 black you create the ultimate 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00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:14,119 you're listening to Jimmy George radio 655 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:19,369 calm combats and we're listening the 656 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:40,070 [Music] 657 00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:42,250 all right welcome back 658 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:45,270 fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church 659 00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:49,030 first up tonight l.a Marzulli is here 660 00:33:52,610 --> 00:33:50,470 and this segment of fade to black is 661 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,620 proudly brought to you by life change t 662 00:33:58,289 --> 00:33:55,120 starting with their super strength T we 663 00:33:59,460 --> 00:33:58,299 use life change products every day right 664 00:34:01,650 --> 00:33:59,470 here at fade to black 665 00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:01,660 let's go to the live change t banner 666 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:03,880 over to the website use the promo code 667 00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:08,760 fader fa ber you will get free shipping 668 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:10,780 all right now 669 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:14,560 la Marzulli author lecture filmmaker he 670 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:16,690 has penned 10 books including the 671 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:20,050 Nephilim trilogy which made the CBA best 672 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:22,260 sellers list he received an honorary 673 00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:25,840 Doctorate for the series from his mentor 674 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:29,500 dr. IDE Thomas who was the Provost at 675 00:34:34,379 --> 00:34:31,450 Pacific International University 676 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:34,389 I think LA has got a second honorary 677 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:36,280 Doctorate I'm gonna ask him about that 678 00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,409 in just a second but he's also the star 679 00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:40,480 of the Watchers series it's now up to 680 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:43,480 attend installments and I've got all of 681 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:45,760 them here and they are just amazing and 682 00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:49,810 great to watch but one the UFO best film 683 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:51,790 and People's Choice Awards at the UFO 684 00:34:59,340 --> 00:34:55,480 Congress back in 2014 but coming up on 685 00:35:02,040 --> 00:34:59,350 February 2nd now also I do want to also 686 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:02,050 mention that LA now has his own radio 687 00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:05,050 show right here on KCRA too as well 688 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:07,150 we'll talk about that but on February 689 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:10,050 2nd here in Los Angeles along with a 690 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:12,940 Richard Shaw and Bryan Forrester and 691 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:14,800 chase klutz key there's going to be a 692 00:35:21,630 --> 00:35:18,490 press conference at LAX announcing the 693 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:21,640 results of DNA testing on the elongated 694 00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:25,750 skulls of Peru and that is something 695 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:28,270 that is very anticipated and it's going 696 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:31,420 to be attended well attended here in Los 697 00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,060 Angeles and I've got to say we're all 698 00:35:39,810 --> 00:35:37,119 wondering what is going to be announced 699 00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:39,820 we're wondering LA we're on the edge of 700 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:43,060 our seat but before we get to that which 701 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:45,820 is why you're here tonight you've been 702 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:48,220 doing a radio and television for a long 703 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:48,950 time but 704 00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,880 you know you're you're here at kgr a how 705 00:35:57,339 --> 00:35:55,520 is that going for you and and is it is 706 00:35:59,980 --> 00:35:57,349 there a lot of pressure to be a radio 707 00:36:02,260 --> 00:35:59,990 host like that well I've been doing 708 00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:02,270 radio for I don't know you know over ten 709 00:36:07,569 --> 00:36:05,750 years off and on and I think TV is my 710 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:07,579 best medium which is why when we do the 711 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:10,130 kgr a show the cameras are rolling in 712 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:12,050 the studio so you know people listening 713 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:15,230 @kg are a are getting the audio feed but 714 00:36:17,410 --> 00:36:16,460 the following that i put up on my 715 00:36:19,329 --> 00:36:17,420 youtube channel 716 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,339 and it's got the video feed so I'm in 717 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:20,960 the studio we usually have a guest on 718 00:36:25,660 --> 00:36:23,450 which we Skype and so it's it's the best 719 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,670 of both worlds where we're doing live 720 00:36:30,609 --> 00:36:27,760 radio and at the same time recording for 721 00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:30,619 for our YouTube channel and TV we're 722 00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:32,630 about to go on a new TV station called 723 00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:35,390 let's see TV internet-based we're 724 00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:37,630 excited by it and they reached out to us 725 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,040 they saw the content they saw what we 726 00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:42,320 were doing up on my youtube channel and 727 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:43,910 they go wow you know this is this is a 728 00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:45,770 lot more of a just a YouTube channel and 729 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:47,720 it is I mean we have a proper studio 730 00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:50,510 here a proper TV studio and we've got 731 00:36:55,809 --> 00:36:53,240 sometimes I'll actually edit the film 732 00:36:59,140 --> 00:36:55,819 I've turned it most of the editing of a 733 00:37:00,670 --> 00:36:59,150 TV show over to Sarah ray and she's been 734 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:00,680 she was just doing a bang-up job she's 735 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:02,450 not more than an intern she's studying 736 00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:04,670 film so this is hands-on for her and 737 00:37:09,010 --> 00:37:06,319 it's great she loves it she's doing a 738 00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:09,020 bang-up job which allows me to work on 739 00:37:13,390 --> 00:37:11,569 the films I'm working on Fatima to will 740 00:37:15,790 --> 00:37:13,400 probably be released it's pretty much 741 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:15,800 finished out the door sometime in April 742 00:37:22,059 --> 00:37:18,430 what we discovered what's in Fatima too 743 00:37:24,579 --> 00:37:22,069 in my opinion is groundbreaking and most 744 00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:24,589 people have never heard the kind of 745 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:26,270 information that's in that film is just 746 00:37:30,730 --> 00:37:28,490 it's just not part of the mainstream you 747 00:37:33,550 --> 00:37:30,740 don't hear this and we spent two weeks 748 00:37:35,890 --> 00:37:33,560 in Portugal interviewing people and then 749 00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:35,900 later on why I was actually in the in 750 00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:37,540 the edit mode I'm in post-production 751 00:37:43,660 --> 00:37:41,390 working on the film we had sort of a 752 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:43,670 groundbreaking piece of information 753 00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:45,950 which we held the presses and 754 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:48,109 interviewed this man we're actually 755 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:49,730 publishing his book on my publishing 756 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:52,310 company spiral of life his name is Jose 757 00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:55,130 a Machado and he had access to the to 758 00:38:01,480 --> 00:37:58,940 the sanctuary in Fatima where the 759 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:01,490 original glass plates which were used in 760 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:03,090 the photography 761 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:04,560 by a photographer by the name of Ben 762 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:07,290 olio and 1917 or cap these are the 763 00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:09,330 original glass plates in other words 764 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:12,270 they are the negatives mm-hmm what was 765 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:15,810 actually taken over that field in 1917 766 00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:18,450 over a hundred years ago he had access 767 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,750 to them this man is is forthright we had 768 00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:23,700 a team of four people including Richard 769 00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:27,000 Shaw grill him on a skype interview and 770 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:29,940 held his feet to the fire about the 771 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:34,290 image that that's in in the in the in 772 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:35,700 the glass place which shouldn't be there 773 00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:38,520 yet it's there and it's not a smudge and 774 00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:42,120 it's not a chemical it's an object 775 00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:45,540 that's there and that's the basis of 776 00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:47,580 this little book that he wrote and it's 777 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:50,520 also in my opinion grounded the people 778 00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,950 in America have never heard this they've 779 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:54,720 never seen this type of photographic 780 00:39:00,560 --> 00:38:57,810 evidence ever guaranteed we've got it 781 00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:00,570 and we'll be breaking that out sometime 782 00:39:05,090 --> 00:39:03,060 in late March early April yeah something 783 00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:05,100 something went down that day for sure 784 00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:09,240 and the the one image that everybody 785 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:15,980 sees is is one thing but it's the the 786 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,530 eyewitness accounts of that day say to 787 00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:21,900 me something more extraordinary I don't 788 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:25,260 know I don't know if it's if it's été or 789 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,120 if it's it's something else or something 790 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:30,000 interdimensional something you know 791 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:33,030 plasma I don't I don't know but it's 792 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:34,950 something definitely went down and there 793 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:37,140 were tens of thousands of witnesses 794 00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:39,690 yeah the witnesses were up about 70,000 795 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:41,880 people many of the witnesses went on the 796 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:44,310 record and they and remember in 1917 797 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:45,930 there are no planes in Portugal I know 798 00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:47,910 it's hard for us to imagine that most of 799 00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:49,320 the people in the field had never seen 800 00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:51,480 any type of aerial phenomenon at all 801 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:53,520 right it's just it's not there it's not 802 00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:56,010 in their grid and some of the witnesses 803 00:40:01,850 --> 00:39:58,440 say I look up and saw a dull silver disc 804 00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:01,860 spinning rotating shining changing color 805 00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:04,380 throwing color on the ground I mean what 806 00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:06,180 we discovered and we went back to the 807 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:09,960 1917 original handwritten eyewitness 808 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:11,910 testimonies that's what we're drawing 809 00:40:16,570 --> 00:40:14,760 from not things that are 20 40 years 810 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:16,580 later 1917 811 00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:18,710 the original witnesses in the field this 812 00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:22,280 is what they saw and the picture that 813 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:24,680 what that is painted for us we just 814 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:26,600 follow the evidence the picture that's 815 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:28,910 painted for us is completely different 816 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:32,210 than what most people think happened in 817 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:33,890 that field and you know in the beginning 818 00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,530 in fátima one right up front I said look 819 00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:38,480 we're not here to disparage anyone's 820 00:40:41,710 --> 00:40:40,430 belief system people can believe what 821 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:41,720 they want to believe and I say you know 822 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:43,970 millions of people go to Fatima each 823 00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:46,190 year millions of Muslims encircle the 824 00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:49,580 Kaaba stone in Mecca millions of Hindus 825 00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:52,190 celebrate Guru puja millions of 826 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:53,510 Buddhists worship with thousands of 827 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:55,190 temples all over Asia 828 00:40:57,790 --> 00:40:56,690 so people are the right to believe what 829 00:40:59,950 --> 00:40:57,800 they want to believe we're not attacking 830 00:41:02,530 --> 00:40:59,960 anyone's belief system it's not a hit 831 00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:02,540 piece on people's belief system what it 832 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,720 is is a look at the so-called miracle 833 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:08,240 the Sun and what really happened there 834 00:41:14,860 --> 00:41:12,890 can we look at it as a UFO a you for 835 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:14,870 logical event in my opinion it was 836 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:18,010 that's my opinion mmm Fatima to 837 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:21,110 extrapolates on that the film is called 838 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,710 strange phenomenon because again going 839 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:26,960 back in the 1917 records interviewing a 840 00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:29,390 lot of people for the film what we 841 00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:31,700 discovery where people had burns on 842 00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:34,460 their skin people's clothes were 843 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:35,870 instantly dried of been raining all 844 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,940 night people were soft to the bone when 845 00:41:41,710 --> 00:41:39,920 the fly by when this object flew over 846 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:41,720 the crowd at less than a hundred feet 847 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,350 okay 848 00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,000 less than a hundred feet over the crowd 849 00:41:48,970 --> 00:41:46,160 people's clothes were instantly dried 850 00:41:52,690 --> 00:41:48,980 some people had burns on their skin cars 851 00:41:53,590 --> 00:41:52,700 the windows of cars shattered car hoods 852 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:53,600 flew open 853 00:42:02,410 --> 00:41:56,930 gasoline spontaneously combusted I mean 854 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:02,420 this was a very very intense flyby and a 855 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:03,740 lot of people thought it was the end of 856 00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:05,450 the world I mean people were absolutely 857 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:07,640 freaked so this isn't this you know 858 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:10,970 benevolent thing that it's been painted 859 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:13,760 it to be today it's not it was it 860 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:16,880 traumatized a lot of people went and I 861 00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:18,890 believe it was the UFO when does this 862 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:23,380 get released we'll release it probably 863 00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:25,730 may be end of March more than likely 864 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:28,580 April we're gonna start you know right 865 00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,140 after the February 2nd 866 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:32,240 a press conference will start 867 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:35,210 advertising this start getting it out to 868 00:42:39,069 --> 00:42:37,490 get the trailer out and show people I 869 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:39,079 mean I think it's I honestly believe 870 00:42:44,529 --> 00:42:42,170 it's groundbreaking information and you 871 00:42:46,750 --> 00:42:44,539 know the the photograph that we had that 872 00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:46,760 was taken that day a hundred years ago 873 00:42:53,410 --> 00:42:49,630 by this photographer Ben allele is 874 00:42:56,109 --> 00:42:53,420 extremely telling is it is it like a-you 875 00:42:58,299 --> 00:42:56,119 know a dull silver disc in the sky no 876 00:43:00,130 --> 00:42:58,309 it's not that at all but what's there 877 00:43:02,289 --> 00:43:00,140 shouldn't be there let's put it that way 878 00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:02,299 well I'm excited I can't wait to see it 879 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:04,940 and and and get you back on the show 880 00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:07,130 once it's your it gets released now 881 00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:10,640 about let's you know this is uh this 882 00:43:16,990 --> 00:43:13,369 this press conference every seconds a 883 00:43:19,779 --> 00:43:17,000 big deal and so let's talk about what 884 00:43:23,950 --> 00:43:19,789 actually was tested let's start there 885 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:23,960 how many skulls well we tested over a 886 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:28,640 period of time out of the paratus Museum 887 00:43:34,539 --> 00:43:30,049 and it's it's really interesting you 888 00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:34,549 know it's like people the archaeologists 889 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:36,049 that we were working with who works at 890 00:43:42,249 --> 00:43:39,950 the Eco museum ICA the Eco museum told 891 00:43:44,529 --> 00:43:42,259 us that it doesn't matter if we take 892 00:43:45,069 --> 00:43:44,539 samples from private museums no one 893 00:43:47,799 --> 00:43:45,079 cares 894 00:43:50,529 --> 00:43:47,809 you can't take entire artifacts out but 895 00:43:53,769 --> 00:43:50,539 you can take powder and hair and we took 896 00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:53,779 hair from the paratus museum well in 897 00:44:00,249 --> 00:43:57,740 advance of our official investigation to 898 00:44:03,579 --> 00:44:00,259 Eko where we were presented with about 899 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:03,589 10 skulls that take DNA we took out of a 900 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,890 10 I think we sampled 9 and a lotta that 901 00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:09,680 was very badly degraded DNA some of it 902 00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:10,910 was good 903 00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:14,000 we definitely got haplogroups and this 904 00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:17,420 is why we go back to the hair samples 905 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,430 and other samples from the paratus 906 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:21,440 museum because believe it or not the 907 00:44:27,970 --> 00:44:25,369 stuff in Paris was dug up a lot closer 908 00:44:30,730 --> 00:44:27,980 to when we took samples than the museum 909 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:30,740 pieces that were 40 or 50 years old so 910 00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:32,690 what happens there is is this grave 911 00:44:37,029 --> 00:44:34,849 there's a necropolis a graveyard called 912 00:44:40,359 --> 00:44:37,039 Chong goes it's right by paracosma 913 00:44:42,190 --> 00:44:40,369 Rawkus on the west coast of Peru it's 914 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:42,200 right on the ocean beautiful place it's 915 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:43,849 one of the it's one of my favorite 916 00:44:46,060 --> 00:44:44,210 places 917 00:44:48,940 --> 00:44:46,070 on the planet there's always an ocean 918 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:48,950 breeze the climate is steady it doesn't 919 00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:50,990 rain there all you hear that maybe gets 920 00:44:55,810 --> 00:44:52,760 a quarter of an inch of rain there's no 921 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:55,820 fog for the most part and it's about 75 922 00:44:59,380 --> 00:44:57,290 to 80 degrees every single day with a 923 00:45:02,010 --> 00:44:59,390 trade wind blowing it's just magical 924 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:02,020 place I love that kind of a beachfront 925 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:05,450 you know a hotel and we stay in some 926 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:08,060 wonderful hotels there so that's where 927 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,730 Chandos is about maybe 15 20 minutes 928 00:45:15,550 --> 00:45:13,040 inland from the coast and this is where 929 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:15,560 this desert area that looks like the 930 00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:17,930 Sahara it gets less than a quarter of an 931 00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:21,380 inch of rain and the sand is mixed with 932 00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:24,470 salt and so you get a very unique area 933 00:45:32,650 --> 00:45:29,359 to bury mummies in because the sand and 934 00:45:36,130 --> 00:45:32,660 the salt and no rain preserve these 935 00:45:38,859 --> 00:45:36,140 these mummies to the point where when we 936 00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:38,869 took and took hair samples and have them 937 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:42,440 tested the lab came back and was 938 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:45,050 questioning their authenticity they were 939 00:45:48,250 --> 00:45:46,400 saying well these don't look like 940 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:48,260 ancient samples because they're too 941 00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:51,290 fresh and we said yeah we know these 942 00:45:57,099 --> 00:45:54,109 were just dug up fairly recently by Oh a 943 00:45:59,020 --> 00:45:57,109 car Oh grave robber and was given the 944 00:46:01,660 --> 00:45:59,030 senior one the curator of the paratus 945 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:01,670 Museum which is a private museum and all 946 00:46:06,339 --> 00:46:04,490 the skulls that senior one has are 947 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:06,349 registered with the Minister of Culture 948 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:09,410 so if this is all aboveboard we took the 949 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:12,710 hair samples and and we had them tested 950 00:46:17,950 --> 00:46:15,410 we took other samples and also had them 951 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:17,960 tested well okay how many how many 952 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:22,609 skulls how DNA samples came from the 953 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:26,570 museum I would say about four or five 954 00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,970 and then it's my and how many from the 955 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:31,280 desert well they're off they're off from 956 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:32,510 the same place they're all from Chong 957 00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:34,760 goes right so they're all they're all 958 00:46:42,839 --> 00:46:37,400 taken from Chong goes originally even 959 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:42,849 the ones that Iike there's about e we 960 00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:48,770 fibers from you won't in paratus so 961 00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:52,820 we've got over 30 okay we've just we've 962 00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,310 lost the internet connection here with 963 00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,359 you it's dropping in and out 964 00:47:03,529 --> 00:47:00,359 you hear me just fine kidding me okay 965 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:03,539 you hear me okay it's it's coming back 966 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,480 you know it's sometimes cycles so let's 967 00:47:12,349 --> 00:47:09,599 let's go back to this one more today so 968 00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:12,359 there were what I'm what I'm trying to 969 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:15,869 get at is the how many skulls were 970 00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:18,329 actually tested from so there were so 971 00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:21,390 many from the museum and I get that how 972 00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:27,720 many from the private hands we had let 973 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:32,099 me sneeze Olaf fighting a cold here we 974 00:47:39,309 --> 00:47:35,130 had at least about one two three four at 975 00:47:44,109 --> 00:47:39,319 least five from the paratus museum 976 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:44,119 baracus History Museum another nine from 977 00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:47,130 Iike then we have the Oregon skull which 978 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:48,809 was in a private collection in Oregon 979 00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:51,720 and then we've got jared skull which we 980 00:47:55,249 --> 00:47:53,609 call the cinnamon skull from another 981 00:47:56,089 --> 00:47:55,259 private collection which we had tested 982 00:48:02,450 --> 00:47:56,099 it 983 00:48:05,029 --> 00:48:02,460 tell you right off the bat mainstream 984 00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:05,039 archaeology and academia will do what 985 00:48:09,019 --> 00:48:06,900 they always do they'll stand up and 986 00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:09,029 shout contamination because that's 987 00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:10,710 that's that's there that's always their 988 00:48:15,259 --> 00:48:12,630 fallback position everything's always 989 00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:15,269 contaminated so aren't my retort to this 990 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:18,950 is how many samples do we have to run 991 00:48:25,339 --> 00:48:22,410 which show what they do show the results 992 00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:25,349 with the results show before people 993 00:48:30,769 --> 00:48:27,720 start standing up and taking notice how 994 00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:30,779 many you know fifty a hundred right why 995 00:48:35,229 --> 00:48:32,849 is it gonna take because what we're 996 00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:35,239 seeing is something that in my opinion 997 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:39,150 could eventually rewrite history as we 998 00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:41,970 know it the okay now let's talk about 999 00:48:49,789 --> 00:48:45,390 these for a second the oregon skull how 1000 00:48:52,099 --> 00:48:49,799 did you guys come across that things can 1001 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:52,109 be very serendipitous sometimes triple 1002 00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:54,210 word score on Scrabble right Richard 1003 00:49:01,220 --> 00:48:58,619 Shaw is that a conference actually a UFO 1004 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:01,230 conference and he's going to show I 1005 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:02,910 think it was either watcher 7 or 1006 00:49:10,249 --> 00:49:08,249 Watchers 8 think was Watchers 8 and he's 1007 00:49:10,799 --> 00:49:10,259 back in the back with all the techies 1008 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:10,809 trying to 1009 00:49:14,699 --> 00:49:12,729 the thing work and they finally got up 1010 00:49:16,890 --> 00:49:14,709 on the screen and they figure out what's 1011 00:49:18,899 --> 00:49:16,900 going on and some and they're showing a 1012 00:49:21,089 --> 00:49:18,909 picture of one of the elongated skulls 1013 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:21,099 which we had tested by the way from 1014 00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:24,249 paratus now this guy comes up Richards 1015 00:49:29,219 --> 00:49:26,529 never met him before and he goes I have 1016 00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,229 one of those that Richard goes what he 1017 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:31,359 goes yeah I have one of those he takes 1018 00:49:33,809 --> 00:49:32,650 his phone out scroll through some 1019 00:49:35,969 --> 00:49:33,819 pictures it goes here 1020 00:49:38,759 --> 00:49:35,979 Richard freaks immediately sends me the 1021 00:49:40,439 --> 00:49:38,769 picture and this guy has always wished 1022 00:49:43,409 --> 00:49:40,449 to remain anonymous so we've kept them 1023 00:49:45,269 --> 00:49:43,419 anonymous the backstory is his father or 1024 00:49:47,909 --> 00:49:45,279 a grandfather rather the man's 1025 00:49:49,769 --> 00:49:47,919 grandfather was a medical doctor the 1026 00:49:53,069 --> 00:49:49,779 medical doctor the grandfather his 1027 00:49:54,479 --> 00:49:53,079 brother was an engineer and apparently 1028 00:49:58,099 --> 00:49:54,489 travelled all over the world in 1029 00:50:00,899 --> 00:49:58,109 authority 30s and 40s and 50s building 1030 00:50:03,059 --> 00:50:00,909 bridges and doing all sorts of engineer 1031 00:50:06,359 --> 00:50:03,069 stuff right right and when he's down in 1032 00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,369 Peru as close as we can come with what 1033 00:50:11,549 --> 00:50:08,559 we think the provenance of this skull is 1034 00:50:13,319 --> 00:50:11,559 is it was either presented to him or he 1035 00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:13,329 bought it or whatever it's definitely a 1036 00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:17,169 museum piece it says la oreja in red 1037 00:50:20,489 --> 00:50:19,089 calligraphy on the on the frontal plane 1038 00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:20,499 of the skull the skull has been 1039 00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,869 shellacked so more than likely it was 1040 00:50:27,899 --> 00:50:24,400 either in a private collection or a 1041 00:50:31,409 --> 00:50:27,909 museum piece and it made its way to this 1042 00:50:33,749 --> 00:50:31,419 doctor who held it basically for decades 1043 00:50:36,479 --> 00:50:33,759 and we were allowed access to it 1044 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:36,489 we took multiple samples that's all in 1045 00:50:43,949 --> 00:50:42,640 our film Watchers ten DNA and the 1046 00:50:48,089 --> 00:50:43,959 results from that were absolutely 1047 00:50:50,399 --> 00:50:48,099 astonishing and now we have the cinnamon 1048 00:50:53,669 --> 00:50:50,409 skull tell us about that one the 1049 00:50:56,609 --> 00:50:53,679 cinnamon skull came to light Oh about a 1050 00:50:59,429 --> 00:50:56,619 year ago and I was contacted Brian was 1051 00:51:01,140 --> 00:50:59,439 contacted and for whatever reason this 1052 00:51:03,529 --> 00:51:01,150 particular person went with the History 1053 00:51:06,929 --> 00:51:03,539 Channel ancient aliens who had it tested 1054 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:06,939 it came back T to B which is Middle 1055 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:12,729 Eastern and then I I I knew I know the 1056 00:51:17,989 --> 00:51:15,849 owner of the skull name is Jared and we 1057 00:51:21,089 --> 00:51:17,999 were in contact and so Jared got more 1058 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:21,099 material for us to sample and I paid for 1059 00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:23,410 that out of our DNA fund 1060 00:51:27,569 --> 00:51:25,480 we sampled that and that results will 1061 00:51:30,690 --> 00:51:27,579 also be you know part of our part of our 1062 00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:30,700 study sentiment skull was was it's 1063 00:51:35,309 --> 00:51:32,020 called cinema just because of the color 1064 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:35,319 it looks like cinnamon right but it's 1065 00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:37,450 definitely a female from 20 to 26 years 1066 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:40,240 old and it's got some peculiar 1067 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:43,240 morphological oddities structural 1068 00:51:46,589 --> 00:51:44,770 oddities within the skull but shouldn't 1069 00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,599 be there and that's part of our 1070 00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:48,359 presentation it's a multi-discipline 1071 00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:50,260 presentation we've got our archaeologist 1072 00:51:55,950 --> 00:51:52,780 mando gonzales who will be presenting 1073 00:51:57,809 --> 00:51:55,960 the the DNA evidence brian forester of 1074 00:52:00,120 --> 00:51:57,819 course will be there giving us sort of 1075 00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:00,130 the backstory on this I will open the 1076 00:52:07,579 --> 00:52:03,280 ceremonies by you know telling what our 1077 00:52:10,700 --> 00:52:07,589 hypotheses is followed by Richard Shaw's 1078 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:10,710 six-minute film followed them by Brian 1079 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:13,450 who you know give an overview of these 1080 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:15,849 very enigmatic elongated skulls that are 1081 00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:17,770 found worldwide follow them I chase 1082 00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:20,140 clonsky who will tell us how she tagged 1083 00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:21,910 and bagged everything and the protocols 1084 00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:24,520 we used to collect the evidence and then 1085 00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:26,200 we bring in mondo Gonzales our 1086 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:28,900 archaeologist who will give the DNA 1087 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:31,230 report followed by Rick Woodward an 1088 00:52:37,410 --> 00:52:34,960 anthropologist who will really put the 1089 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:37,420 icing on the cake in my opinion with the 1090 00:52:42,299 --> 00:52:39,700 research that he's done followed by dr. 1091 00:52:44,789 --> 00:52:42,309 Michael Alday medical doctor again 1092 00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:44,799 looking at the skulls multi-discipline 1093 00:52:50,730 --> 00:52:48,400 dr. Alday believes that this is not the 1094 00:52:53,279 --> 00:52:50,740 result of cranial deformation cradle 1095 00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:53,289 head boarding when they when they mold a 1096 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:55,420 child's skull we know that that exists 1097 00:52:59,370 --> 00:52:57,130 or we're not saying that that was in 1098 00:53:02,250 --> 00:52:59,380 practice we're saying that the pirata 1099 00:53:05,279 --> 00:53:02,260 skulls many of them are not the result 1100 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:05,289 of cradle cranial deformation cradle 1101 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:07,569 head boarding and and of course after 1102 00:53:14,130 --> 00:53:10,960 after dr. Alda is dr. Malcolm warm was a 1103 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:14,140 chiropractor who weighs in because of 1104 00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:16,180 some of the morphological differences he 1105 00:53:20,849 --> 00:53:18,760 contacted us I interviewed and went down 1106 00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:20,859 and spoke to him so he's coming out and 1107 00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:22,660 he's presenting also last but not least 1108 00:53:28,049 --> 00:53:25,779 Marcia more a forensic artist who brings 1109 00:53:30,809 --> 00:53:28,059 to life what these entities may have 1110 00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:30,819 looked like 2,000 years ago when they 1111 00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:31,599 roamed the planet 1112 00:53:37,590 --> 00:53:34,029 how many laboratories were involved with 1113 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:37,600 the testing originally three 1114 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:39,770 and we are looking for a bonafide 1115 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:42,830 geneticist because one of the labs that 1116 00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,490 we used at next-gen next-generation 1117 00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:49,760 sequencing and what that's very very 1118 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:52,460 sophisticated but it takes someone who 1119 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:55,570 is actually a geneticist and can look at 1120 00:54:00,940 --> 00:53:58,880 basically the sequencing of DNA and and 1121 00:54:04,090 --> 00:54:00,950 how it sequences and match things up 1122 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:04,100 it's complex it's very complex and we 1123 00:54:08,890 --> 00:54:06,170 don't have anyone on the team so we've 1124 00:54:11,350 --> 00:54:08,900 got data from that but that data cannot 1125 00:54:13,810 --> 00:54:11,360 be presented until we get a bona fide 1126 00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:13,820 geneticist on our team so if any of you 1127 00:54:17,350 --> 00:54:16,100 are out there that are bona fide genuine 1128 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:17,360 artists this to know what I'm talking 1129 00:54:21,310 --> 00:54:19,330 about when I say next-gen 1130 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:21,320 next-generation sequencing you know 1131 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:24,170 we're up against the number two labs one 1132 00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:26,870 the main one is the Palio DNA lab in 1133 00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:30,080 Canada Renee and Steven and Renee frat 1134 00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:32,540 Pietro or our geneticists up there we've 1135 00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:34,190 met them Richard and I went up we 1136 00:54:39,370 --> 00:54:37,100 interviewed them Stephen did extensive 1137 00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:39,380 work on all of the samples many of the 1138 00:54:43,690 --> 00:54:41,540 samples the other lab wishes to remain 1139 00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:43,700 anonymous and it's not in the United 1140 00:54:49,060 --> 00:54:46,880 States but wishes to remain anonymous 1141 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:49,070 it's you know Jimmy it's really strange 1142 00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:51,470 when you get into this stuff you see 1143 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:54,280 that that there's a certain paradigm 1144 00:55:01,450 --> 00:54:58,010 which is upheld and as long as you up 1145 00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:01,460 hold that paradigm you're okay but the 1146 00:55:05,650 --> 00:55:03,710 moment you go against that paradigm the 1147 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:05,660 moment you begin to find things which 1148 00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:07,970 well maybe this isn't what we all 1149 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:10,100 thought immediately you're railed 1150 00:55:14,830 --> 00:55:11,660 against we've had hit pieces written 1151 00:55:17,050 --> 00:55:14,840 against us I will mention by whom but 1152 00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:17,060 we've had hit pieces and these people 1153 00:55:20,830 --> 00:55:18,920 have never been the Paracas they've 1154 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:20,840 never looked at the actual DNA evidence 1155 00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:22,730 but they're so sure it's a contamination 1156 00:55:27,370 --> 00:55:25,070 which of course is the default argument 1157 00:55:29,110 --> 00:55:27,380 that they use this is why the 1158 00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:29,120 multi-discipline study when you bring in 1159 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:31,310 our anthropologist our medical doctor 1160 00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:33,770 and chiropractor it becomes in my 1161 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:35,630 opinion in one-two punch is it 1162 00:55:40,930 --> 00:55:38,810 conclusive no it's not but this is why 1163 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,940 more study needs to be done more testing 1164 00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:43,280 needs to be done but we feel obligated 1165 00:55:48,580 --> 00:55:46,220 to do a press conference now bring what 1166 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:48,590 the information that we have out to the 1167 00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:50,330 public to create awareness 1168 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:52,430 and then raise funds we need to do a 1169 00:55:58,900 --> 00:55:55,490 real archeological dig in Chong goes and 1170 00:56:01,360 --> 00:55:58,910 the best of my ability that hasn't been 1171 00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:01,370 done since Julio Te'o was there decades 1172 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:04,760 ago we need to go down 30 feet to the 1173 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:06,610 Royal to the people that were there 1174 00:56:11,950 --> 00:56:09,050 3,500 years ago that settled the area 1175 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:11,960 the royal tombs we want to go back to 1176 00:56:15,070 --> 00:56:13,730 the original inhabitants we want to 1177 00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:15,080 carbon date it and see that carbon 1178 00:56:19,630 --> 00:56:17,750 dating about 3,500 years ago we carbon 1179 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:19,640 dated one of the mummies that we 1180 00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:23,810 unwrapped which was 1935 years ago and 1181 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,070 we unwrapped that mummy that was the 1182 00:56:30,070 --> 00:56:27,200 baby skull which was just incredible and 1183 00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,080 we we DNA tested that also but that 1184 00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:32,480 skull was at the end of the paratus 1185 00:56:36,940 --> 00:56:34,670 error which is about 2000 years ago so 1186 00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:36,950 it fits the timeline the oregon skull we 1187 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:40,100 carbon dated and that showed only 800 1188 00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:42,130 years old so it's very very interesting 1189 00:56:47,020 --> 00:56:46,070 very enigmatic and quite frankly and I 1190 00:56:48,970 --> 00:56:47,030 mean I'll save it at the press 1191 00:56:51,790 --> 00:56:48,980 conference we have more questions than 1192 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:51,800 we do answers but shortly something is 1193 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:53,810 going on I mean these people aren't 1194 00:57:01,450 --> 00:56:56,810 staking their reputation and their 1195 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:01,460 livelihood on her you know promulgating 1196 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:03,410 a ruse or a canard that's not what's 1197 00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:05,290 going on here this is hardcore 1198 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:08,510 scientific evidence as a Christian 1199 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:11,210 there's a biblical element to it I get 1200 00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:11,630 that 1201 00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:16,670 presented at all at this press 1202 00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:18,590 conference I mean yeah we can talk about 1203 00:57:23,530 --> 00:57:21,200 the Nephilim we've got three historical 1204 00:57:25,930 --> 00:57:23,540 records the Torah the ancient Jewish 1205 00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:25,940 writings the the Dead Sea scrolls and 1206 00:57:31,180 --> 00:57:28,310 the suta program focal Book of Enoch all 1207 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:31,190 talking about this this hybrid race 1208 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:33,290 known as the Nephilim that were in the 1209 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:35,090 Levant 3,500 years ago that's been 1210 00:57:40,030 --> 00:57:37,370 that's always been the hypothesis that 1211 00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:40,040 there was a diaspora of these tribes 1212 00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,350 they fled because they were there was a 1213 00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:44,480 war being prosecuted against them and 1214 00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:46,940 they fled the area they ran for their 1215 00:57:53,230 --> 00:57:49,550 lives essentially and that's been our 1216 00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:53,240 hypothesis and what's interesting some 1217 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,830 of the DNA and I'm sort of tipping my 1218 00:57:58,660 --> 00:57:56,720 hand here I think when people tune in 1219 00:58:01,210 --> 00:57:58,670 the live stream live streaming and they 1220 00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:01,220 see the evidence that we present along 1221 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:04,160 with the morphological differences it'll 1222 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:07,250 look if fair-minded people are gonna 1223 00:58:10,270 --> 00:58:09,050 look at this and go you know you guys 1224 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:10,280 are wrong with something you're right 1225 00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:12,530 more research needs to be done but 1226 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:14,390 you're definitely on to something we 1227 00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:15,890 need to take a break right here but you 1228 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:19,280 can answer this actually with a fairly 1229 00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:21,610 quickly did each one of the three 1230 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:27,020 laboratories have the same 15 skull 1231 00:58:32,590 --> 00:58:30,650 samples no we some of them do some of 1232 00:58:34,330 --> 00:58:32,600 them don't we mixed it up okay got it 1233 00:58:36,190 --> 00:58:34,340 got it okay let's take a break right 1234 00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:36,200 here when we come back we'll a pick up 1235 00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:38,390 right where we've just left off our 1236 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:40,900 guest tonight first up tonight is La 1237 00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:42,890 Marzulli they're gonna do a press 1238 00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:45,680 conference on February 2nd announcing 1239 00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:48,380 the DNA results and we're gonna continue 1240 00:58:51,940 --> 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01:03:02,870 skulls of Peru the press conference will 1312 01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:05,870 be on February 2nd this segment of fade 1313 01:03:10,060 --> 01:03:07,310 to black has proudly brought to you by 1314 01:03:12,430 --> 01:03:10,070 River moon coffee makers of the fade to 1315 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:12,440 black blend use that promo code f2b 1316 01:03:17,620 --> 01:03:15,290 blend you'll get 15% off of your order 1317 01:03:18,370 --> 01:03:17,630 go to the banners over it Jimmy Church 1318 01:03:20,740 --> 01:03:18,380 radio.com 1319 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:20,750 la I got to tell you before we move on 1320 01:03:27,340 --> 01:03:24,170 you know you've arrived in radio when 1321 01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:27,350 you've got your own coffee that's all 1322 01:03:32,290 --> 01:03:30,920 I'm saying it's pretty good it's good 1323 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:32,300 coffee too 1324 01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:35,090 now let's let's talk about these results 1325 01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:36,740 a little bit what type did you do 1326 01:03:41,830 --> 01:03:39,470 nuclear testing is it mitochondria what 1327 01:03:44,110 --> 01:03:41,840 what kind of testing was done well the 1328 01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:44,120 testing was just for basically DNA we're 1329 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:46,790 trying to get both a nuclear DNA and the 1330 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:49,370 mitochondrial DNA the mitochondrial DNA 1331 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:52,730 we were able to extract the nuclear DNA 1332 01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:56,570 once call yields it a little bit but not 1333 01:04:00,760 --> 01:03:58,970 enough to really read so we are still 1334 01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:00,770 this is this is why it's problematic 1335 01:04:05,380 --> 01:04:04,280 this is why we realize now we need an I 1336 01:04:09,970 --> 01:04:05,390 hate to say it but we need fresh 1337 01:04:12,190 --> 01:04:09,980 material we need to go down and find a a 1338 01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:12,200 royal Perot costume a mummy which has 1339 01:04:17,710 --> 01:04:14,510 not been ever touched take that mommy 1340 01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:17,720 bring it into an area where we've got 1341 01:04:23,610 --> 01:04:20,150 total control over the environment so 1342 01:04:25,870 --> 01:04:23,620 when we open the mummy people can't go 1343 01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,880 contamination so we've got to have a 1344 01:04:29,890 --> 01:04:27,440 sterile room I mean all this cost 1345 01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:29,900 thousands and thousands of dollars we 1346 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:32,240 need to unwrap it and then we need to 1347 01:04:36,970 --> 01:04:34,610 get go to the rib cage because where the 1348 01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:36,980 ribs are that's where the good stuff is 1349 01:04:42,270 --> 01:04:39,560 and if we can find nuclear DNA there 1350 01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:42,280 then we're off to the races now 1351 01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:45,440 allegedly there was a British film crew 1352 01:04:53,590 --> 01:04:49,520 that came in and took DNA samples from a 1353 01:04:56,110 --> 01:04:53,600 artifact called the Y kisko and Brien 1354 01:04:58,690 --> 01:04:56,120 Foerster alerted us to this and we went 1355 01:05:01,360 --> 01:04:58,700 with Brian and we saw this and they did 1356 01:05:02,270 --> 01:05:01,370 extensive testing on it they created a 1357 01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:02,280 our 1358 01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:04,020 long documentary which is aired I don't 1359 01:05:08,750 --> 01:05:05,790 think it was aired over here but it was 1360 01:05:11,810 --> 01:05:08,760 aired over there and they did they took 1361 01:05:14,030 --> 01:05:11,820 ribs I was just there a few months ago 1362 01:05:16,850 --> 01:05:14,040 and I saw where they took the ribs they 1363 01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:16,860 were able to get the haplogroup the 1364 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:18,420 mitochondrial DNA but they were able to 1365 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:21,810 get the elusive nuclear DNA and they 1366 01:05:27,290 --> 01:05:23,370 stated it was from an unknown primate 1367 01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:27,300 which quite frankly that's what I would 1368 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:30,870 be leaning to with with the paratus 1369 01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:34,050 unknown primate something that's not not 1370 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:36,750 on the charts and yet it's there but 1371 01:05:42,290 --> 01:05:40,130 we're not we don't know what it is now I 1372 01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:42,300 you know I've tried to get all of the 1373 01:05:45,860 --> 01:05:43,350 film crew and get that some of that 1374 01:05:46,220 --> 01:05:45,870 information but it's almost like a dead 1375 01:05:48,260 --> 01:05:46,230 end 1376 01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:48,270 so I can't vet whether that's true or 1377 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:50,910 not I'm going by what senior an auto 1378 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:53,130 who's an anthropologist that's what he 1379 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:56,010 stated I was I thought met with him and 1380 01:06:01,790 --> 01:05:58,170 we talked it over Brian and his Brian's 1381 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:01,800 wife @na and that seems to be what it 1382 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:04,290 came back as an unknown primate which 1383 01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:06,570 kind of makes sense I mean you know part 1384 01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:10,440 of our hypotheses is that we might be 1385 01:06:15,830 --> 01:06:13,020 looking at a subspecies of human beings 1386 01:06:19,390 --> 01:06:15,840 with with these skulls we don't know yet 1387 01:06:21,770 --> 01:06:19,400 but that's why it's a multi-disciplined 1388 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:21,780 approach and the answer our 1389 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:24,480 anthropologist Rick Woodward dr. all day 1390 01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:26,330 you know Malcolm or I'm a chiropractor 1391 01:06:31,790 --> 01:06:28,980 it's when all these guys start weighing 1392 01:06:35,420 --> 01:06:31,800 in on this from their position of 1393 01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:35,430 expertise their expertise it really 1394 01:06:39,770 --> 01:06:37,740 starts stacking the deck in my opinion 1395 01:06:41,090 --> 01:06:39,780 it really does you know I've always felt 1396 01:06:43,310 --> 01:06:41,100 that there was something going on with 1397 01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:43,320 these things but I'm a layperson and 1398 01:06:47,870 --> 01:06:46,110 I've learned along the way in the last 1399 01:06:49,610 --> 01:06:47,880 five years you know when I went down 1400 01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:49,620 there the first time I I didn't know 1401 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,110 what a zygomatic arch was now it's you 1402 01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,480 know it's ancient history or a sagittal 1403 01:06:58,580 --> 01:06:56,640 suture or a lack of sagittal suture or 1404 01:07:00,290 --> 01:06:58,590 the two parietal place the frontal play 1405 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:00,300 at the occipital plate all you know we 1406 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:02,130 we've gone to school we've all learned 1407 01:07:07,820 --> 01:07:05,010 together and of course just a protocol 1408 01:07:10,070 --> 01:07:07,830 of taking DNA when we went in sampled in 1409 01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:10,080 Oregon skull and we went back in sample 1410 01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:12,270 all the eco skulls we were dressed 1411 01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:15,630 head-to-toe in lab garb provided by the 1412 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:16,120 Paleo 1413 01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:19,690 DNA lab and when we drill into the 1414 01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,420 skulls I mean we had compressed air so 1415 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:24,160 we would clean the surface of a skull 1416 01:07:28,350 --> 01:07:26,410 off to remove any contamination any 1417 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:28,360 surface contamination and then drill 1418 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:30,610 into the skull to get fresh genetic 1419 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:31,330 material 1420 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:33,790 now that was immediately tagged and 1421 01:07:38,970 --> 01:07:36,250 bagged by Chase clonsky I mean it was on 1422 01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:38,980 the table for less than a minute and 1423 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:41,590 seriously we would go in we would get 1424 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:43,210 the powder it would fall on the fresh 1425 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:45,550 piece of paper from the paper was just 1426 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:47,650 unopened from a ream of paper we would 1427 01:07:52,290 --> 01:07:50,290 fold it up we'd give it to chase it was 1428 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:52,300 it was tagging back or we folded it up 1429 01:07:59,520 --> 01:07:57,010 and put it in a vial a small plastic 1430 01:08:02,130 --> 01:07:59,530 vial which then was labeled tagged and 1431 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:02,140 bagged and gone I mean so this stuff was 1432 01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:05,410 like exposed to the air for less than a 1433 01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:08,950 minute and we're in full DNA lab suits I 1434 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:11,950 mean hair nets masks double gloves 1435 01:08:18,060 --> 01:08:16,210 double arms full-length bodysuit the 1436 01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:18,070 boots over our shoes I mean it's the 1437 01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:21,490 real deal and we changed our suits every 1438 01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:23,950 time in other words if we barn out one 1439 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:26,350 skull we had one suit on then we would 1440 01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:29,410 disrobe outside put on the normal suit 1441 01:08:35,190 --> 01:08:31,870 and then come back in we use compressed 1442 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:35,200 air to blow we used it on each other to 1443 01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:36,790 make sure that we weren't you know 1444 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:39,640 carrying anything over or whatever after 1445 01:08:43,950 --> 01:08:41,410 we went in with the dremel tool we'll 1446 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:43,960 use compressed air to clean the area and 1447 01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:46,090 then we didn't got fresh material so I 1448 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,430 mean look it'd be great to go into a 1449 01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:51,040 sterile environment with air filters and 1450 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:52,750 all that but we didn't have that and the 1451 01:08:56,460 --> 01:08:55,090 incan museum doesn't have that one of 1452 01:09:01,560 --> 01:08:56,470 the more astonishing things that we 1453 01:09:04,290 --> 01:09:01,570 discovered at at chart the chart the Eco 1454 01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:04,300 museum was we were allowed to go into 1455 01:09:09,810 --> 01:09:06,430 the museum because it was closed 1456 01:09:12,210 --> 01:09:09,820 that day go figure again another 1457 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:12,220 serendipitous moment right and the very 1458 01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:15,010 elongated chongo skull which is the one 1459 01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:16,900 that most people see when they google 1460 01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,380 the stuff the big one the big one the 1461 01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:22,480 real big one says Chong goes on it right 1462 01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:24,460 they took it out of the cat of the glass 1463 01:09:28,519 --> 01:09:26,800 case and we got to handle it we weren't 1464 01:09:30,589 --> 01:09:28,529 allowed to take DNA bummer 1465 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:30,599 but we did get to handle it and we we 1466 01:09:35,299 --> 01:09:32,489 were able to see the morphological 1467 01:09:37,099 --> 01:09:35,309 differences which were also in that 1468 01:09:39,379 --> 01:09:37,109 skull we were all just blown away you 1469 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:39,389 should you should hear me on video I go 1470 01:09:44,059 --> 01:09:42,150 oh my gosh just like that when they went 1471 01:09:46,579 --> 01:09:44,069 within the curator the record the museum 1472 01:09:47,809 --> 01:09:46,589 was holding it we go turn it over you 1473 01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:47,819 want to see the underside of the skull 1474 01:09:52,819 --> 01:09:50,369 so she turns it over and the moment I 1475 01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,829 see what I'm looking for I go oh my gosh 1476 01:09:57,589 --> 01:09:54,960 I mean I'm just like blown away because 1477 01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:57,599 of certain morphological differences 1478 01:10:01,580 --> 01:09:59,400 there is something that I've talked 1479 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:01,590 about before again when we talked about 1480 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:05,730 it a little bit on this show the idea of 1481 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:08,010 a lack of a sagittal suture many of the 1482 01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:10,050 piraka skulls do not have a sagittal 1483 01:10:15,169 --> 01:10:12,300 suture this goes from the frontal plate 1484 01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,179 right our forehead and connects all the 1485 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:17,280 way back to the rear plate and divides 1486 01:10:22,129 --> 01:10:19,530 the two parietal plates there is a 1487 01:10:24,859 --> 01:10:22,139 disease called craniosynostosis which 1488 01:10:27,529 --> 01:10:24,869 usually happens in the elderly where 1489 01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:27,539 that that that sagittal suture will fuse 1490 01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:30,329 but then it creates a sagittal crest we 1491 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:32,460 don't see that in the practice and the 1492 01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:35,010 cinnamon skull for instance is between 1493 01:10:40,510 --> 01:10:39,360 20 and 26 years old and we think it's a 1494 01:10:43,609 --> 01:10:40,520 female 1495 01:10:45,859 --> 01:10:43,619 there is no sagittal crest no sagittal 1496 01:10:48,770 --> 01:10:45,869 suture so why is it that cranial Sanna 1497 01:10:51,919 --> 01:10:48,780 ptosis seems to be so predominant among 1498 01:10:53,689 --> 01:10:51,929 baracus is it genetic this is why more 1499 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:53,699 testing needs to be done we've got a 1500 01:10:59,720 --> 01:10:57,210 good size data base right now and you 1501 01:11:00,529 --> 01:10:59,730 know we've got everybody's weight in we 1502 01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:00,539 have a little booklet 1503 01:11:04,609 --> 01:11:03,300 it'll be about 120 hundred 30 pages with 1504 01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:04,619 full you know for color printing 1505 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:07,679 we'll be selling that in the in the 1506 01:11:11,839 --> 01:11:09,650 months to come probably I'll have it 1507 01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,849 probably by the end of February along 1508 01:11:16,129 --> 01:11:13,920 with the DVD so if you can't watch it on 1509 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:16,139 live streaming and we are doing live 1510 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:18,090 streaming the proceeds from all the 1511 01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:20,130 proceeds from the live streaming will go 1512 01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:23,219 into the DNA on the trail fund in other 1513 01:11:29,450 --> 01:11:26,550 words for more research the DVD and the 1514 01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,460 booklet will not so you know we need to 1515 01:11:34,459 --> 01:11:31,199 get paid I get a payday here somehow 1516 01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:34,469 people lights on but right alright well 1517 01:11:41,419 --> 01:11:38,670 let me ask you if if it's not cranial 1518 01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:41,429 boarding then what are what are you 1519 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:42,310 suggesting 1520 01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:47,890 we're looking at are genetic anomalies 1521 01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:51,280 that there's something something in the 1522 01:11:56,490 --> 01:11:53,500 DNA which we don't know what it is 1523 01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:56,500 because we don't have nuclear DNA and we 1524 01:12:00,180 --> 01:11:58,690 need a lot more samples and a lot you 1525 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:00,190 know we need fresher samples we need 1526 01:12:04,050 --> 01:12:02,170 like I said we need samples that aren't 1527 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,060 so stinking degraded because they've 1528 01:12:08,910 --> 01:12:05,920 been in a cardboard box for 40 years 1529 01:12:10,770 --> 01:12:08,920 like the a commune all due respect but 1530 01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:10,780 that's you know they're back there for 1531 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:14,590 40 years and whereas the mute of stuffin 1532 01:12:19,410 --> 01:12:16,810 and senior Long's museum like the baby 1533 01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,420 skull that arrived at his Museum about 1534 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:22,000 four years ago five years ago and our 1535 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:25,120 first time down we saw it so 2013 it had 1536 01:12:28,740 --> 01:12:27,610 just arrived there and had just been dug 1537 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:28,750 up as it were 1538 01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:32,490 so it was very fresh extremely fresh a 1539 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:35,080 moment when we unwrapped that that's in 1540 01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:38,170 Watchers eight I believe but if it's 1541 01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:40,900 blown away if it's not boarding and its 1542 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:44,260 genetic so now we are suggesting that 1543 01:12:51,980 --> 01:12:48,850 they are born this way again what are 1544 01:12:55,140 --> 01:12:51,990 you suggesting if that is the case and 1545 01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:55,150 we're talking about and and with the 1546 01:12:59,250 --> 01:12:56,920 with the carbon dating if I'm 1547 01:13:02,130 --> 01:12:59,260 understanding you correctly that they 1548 01:13:07,650 --> 01:13:02,140 were born this way twelve thirteen 1549 01:13:09,530 --> 01:13:07,660 fourteen hundred years apart yeah the 1550 01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:09,540 the original paratus goes back 1551 01:13:13,710 --> 01:13:11,980 thirty-five hundred years right the end 1552 01:13:16,290 --> 01:13:13,720 of the paratus is two thousand years 1553 01:13:18,690 --> 01:13:16,300 right so something is something is 1554 01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:18,700 definitely going on there's a lithograph 1555 01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:22,030 that Brian Forrester sent me and it's 1556 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:25,900 from 1848 and it's a lithograph and in 1557 01:13:35,490 --> 01:13:31,650 that it shows as the story goes that 1558 01:13:38,010 --> 01:13:35,500 they found a mummy and they unwrapped it 1559 01:13:41,220 --> 01:13:38,020 and they discovered it was a female who 1560 01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:41,230 was pregnant so they decided to go and 1561 01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:45,400 see what was inside the females womb so 1562 01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:47,640 they opened it up and lo and behold 1563 01:13:55,390 --> 01:13:52,660 there is a baby in there with an 1564 01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:55,400 elongated skull and teeth 1565 01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:00,800 that can't be and that's from 1848 it's 1566 01:14:07,060 --> 01:14:04,760 called the Chu D mummy and you know this 1567 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:07,070 is what drives me nuts about this does 1568 01:14:11,890 --> 01:14:09,650 anyone know where that is is it in Lima 1569 01:14:13,870 --> 01:14:11,900 at the Julio Te'o Museum more than 1570 01:14:17,140 --> 01:14:13,880 likely or is it up on Cusco we don't 1571 01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,150 know and it's very hard to get any real 1572 01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:19,280 information about anything I mean it 1573 01:14:24,250 --> 01:14:22,640 took us basically four years before we 1574 01:14:26,890 --> 01:14:24,260 got written permission from the Minister 1575 01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:26,900 of Culture to go down and just collect 1576 01:14:32,530 --> 01:14:29,360 DNA samples and I remember I was at the 1577 01:14:36,370 --> 01:14:32,540 Julio Tay a museum I think in 2015 1578 01:14:38,830 --> 01:14:36,380 maybe 16 and I looked at the director 1579 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:38,840 and we had an audience with her which 1580 01:14:44,710 --> 01:14:40,490 was fantastic when we got to go in the 1581 01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:44,720 back and look at Oh something we didn't 1582 01:14:48,910 --> 01:14:46,430 get to go see the skull room where 1583 01:14:51,250 --> 01:14:48,920 10,000 skulls are kept and 300 mummies 1584 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:51,260 mm-hmm they collect this stuff but as 1585 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:52,970 you'll hear in a moment no one does 1586 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:55,610 anything with it and that's I'm painting 1587 01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,010 with a broad brush they do research they 1588 01:15:02,290 --> 01:15:00,080 catalogue and look at these things I get 1589 01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:02,300 measured the skulls I get all that but 1590 01:15:06,910 --> 01:15:04,670 my question of her was the director has 1591 01:15:08,860 --> 01:15:06,920 anyone done any DNA testing on honoring 1592 01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:08,870 these skulls and she looked at me 1593 01:15:14,020 --> 01:15:11,120 without any hesitation or equivocation 1594 01:15:16,060 --> 01:15:14,030 on her part she said no and I was just 1595 01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,070 taken aback by that and I said oh you 1596 01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:18,800 mean to tell me that no one has done any 1597 01:15:22,450 --> 01:15:21,110 DNA testing and of course it was you 1598 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:22,460 know our translator just to make sure 1599 01:15:27,340 --> 01:15:25,370 and she said no no DNA testing has been 1600 01:15:29,850 --> 01:15:27,350 done I don't know if Ella I am up you 1601 01:15:33,580 --> 01:15:29,860 know fainted I mean I was flabbergasted 1602 01:15:36,820 --> 01:15:33,590 completely taken aback by this so we 1603 01:15:40,210 --> 01:15:36,830 know that there was a study at one major 1604 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:40,220 university in the u.s. about the 1605 01:15:44,980 --> 01:15:42,530 Peruvian people and allegedly the 1606 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:44,990 paratus were included but we're not sure 1607 01:15:50,050 --> 01:15:48,170 where the where the archaeologists 1608 01:15:53,020 --> 01:15:50,060 tested any elongated skulls we don't 1609 01:15:56,050 --> 01:15:53,030 know that yet so you know once again 1610 01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:56,060 we've got our data and and and you know 1611 01:15:59,410 --> 01:15:57,440 for those people out there who were 1612 01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,420 gonna all they want to do is shoot us 1613 01:16:05,290 --> 01:16:01,520 down I don't care what you think about 1614 01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:05,300 me look at the data look at the data you 1615 01:16:09,130 --> 01:16:07,910 know you can you can you boost all the 1616 01:16:10,990 --> 01:16:09,140 ad hominem attacks 1617 01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:11,000 I'm showboating and grandstanding and 1618 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:12,710 I'm in it for the money and all the 1619 01:16:16,930 --> 01:16:14,690 nonsense that's out you know fine great 1620 01:16:19,690 --> 01:16:16,940 but I'm down there and by the way I 1621 01:16:21,850 --> 01:16:19,700 don't take a salary from any of the 1622 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,860 other donations that come in but when 1623 01:16:26,710 --> 01:16:24,560 people go down like like mondo Gonzalez 1624 01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:26,720 I have to pay him for his time right and 1625 01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:30,080 and and our art are basically the one 1626 01:16:32,530 --> 01:16:32,180 the couple that is financed a lot of 1627 01:16:34,450 --> 01:16:32,540 this 1628 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:34,460 I mean they've given us a lot of money 1629 01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:36,530 to make this happen so everybody gets 1630 01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:38,960 paid but me and I'm not whining but 1631 01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:40,760 morally I don't want to I don't want to 1632 01:16:44,050 --> 01:16:43,070 be accused of you know being on the dull 1633 01:16:46,150 --> 01:16:44,060 here say yeah 1634 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:46,160 one for you one two for me I'm not 1635 01:16:50,410 --> 01:16:48,530 taking anything for this I don't so I 1636 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:50,420 make my money on the back end you know 1637 01:16:54,430 --> 01:16:52,850 through DVD sales or whatever but this 1638 01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:54,440 cost thousands and thousands of 1639 01:16:59,920 --> 01:16:57,280 thousands of dollars to make happen and 1640 01:17:02,530 --> 01:16:59,930 you know for the for the armchair 1641 01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:02,540 critics and all these guys look at the 1642 01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:05,150 data I don't care what you think about 1643 01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:06,830 me of a team or anything else just look 1644 01:17:11,620 --> 01:17:08,990 at the data look at what the data is 1645 01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:11,630 saying when we reveal it you tell me 1646 01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:13,670 where we're going wrong listen to listen 1647 01:17:17,950 --> 01:17:16,490 to dr. Michael Michael all day when he 1648 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:17,960 talks about the morphological 1649 01:17:22,330 --> 01:17:20,480 differences in these skulls you know 1650 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:22,340 listen to Rick Woodward our 1651 01:17:26,590 --> 01:17:24,530 anthropologist who talks about and has 1652 01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:26,600 studied this and he was the one that put 1653 01:17:31,180 --> 01:17:29,270 that really discovered this and that's 1654 01:17:33,250 --> 01:17:31,190 why he's you know coming out and 1655 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:33,260 presenting at the conference so it's um 1656 01:17:37,930 --> 01:17:36,050 it's hard science and again I want to 1657 01:17:39,850 --> 01:17:37,940 stress you know there's no answers we're 1658 01:17:42,670 --> 01:17:39,860 not gonna say oh my gosh we found my 1659 01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:42,680 Nephilim or oh it's you don't know where 1660 01:17:51,580 --> 01:17:45,470 to look that guys we don't know braised 1661 01:17:54,430 --> 01:17:51,590 pork yeah but I'm thinking let me think 1662 01:17:59,620 --> 01:17:54,440 its genetic right right right 1663 01:18:03,250 --> 01:17:59,630 let me ask you this though the the same 1664 01:18:05,230 --> 01:18:03,260 testing is going on right now with Gaia 1665 01:18:07,810 --> 01:18:05,240 right and they're Nazca mummies they're 1666 01:18:10,810 --> 01:18:07,820 pulling DNA results in there they've got 1667 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:10,820 four labs around the world that are 1668 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:16,130 working on this - do you think that Peru 1669 01:18:21,370 --> 01:18:19,970 is aware of the focus that is going on 1670 01:18:24,910 --> 01:18:21,380 right now with Nazca 1671 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:24,920 with Baracus about this and how 1672 01:18:30,490 --> 01:18:28,010 important it is with everything that is 1673 01:18:31,780 --> 01:18:30,500 going on right now and and why doesn't 1674 01:18:34,540 --> 01:18:31,790 and that's the first part of the 1675 01:18:36,610 --> 01:18:34,550 question the second is doesn't Peru have 1676 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:36,620 their own DNA testing lab in the country 1677 01:18:42,430 --> 01:18:39,290 apparently they don't know but you know 1678 01:18:45,310 --> 01:18:42,440 they do not there's there's no DNA 1679 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:45,320 testing in Peru that I'm aware of that 1680 01:18:48,910 --> 01:18:46,970 that blows my mind yeah I've heard this 1681 01:18:51,190 --> 01:18:48,920 before it just doesn't make any sense 1682 01:18:55,450 --> 01:18:51,200 talk about being flabbergasted and yeah 1683 01:18:58,210 --> 01:18:55,460 are they are they aware about the the 1684 01:19:01,690 --> 01:18:58,220 focus that is on Peru right now around 1685 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:01,700 the world are they aware of this I think 1686 01:19:06,190 --> 01:19:03,770 they've been aware and they they manage 1687 01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:06,200 the agenda very carefully like when you 1688 01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:08,750 go to a diverse you know kind of sized 1689 01:19:13,930 --> 01:19:11,150 step a little bit but it's it all ties 1690 01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:13,940 back to the same overarching theme here 1691 01:19:18,370 --> 01:19:16,880 it's that it's a carefully managed 1692 01:19:20,770 --> 01:19:18,380 agenda for instance when you go to a 1693 01:19:22,270 --> 01:19:20,780 place like sake LeMond and I've been 1694 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:22,280 there twice and it's just mind-blowing 1695 01:19:26,710 --> 01:19:24,560 and Brian Forrester took us for the 1696 01:19:30,670 --> 01:19:26,720 first time and you know when you come up 1697 01:19:33,790 --> 01:19:30,680 over over the rise and below you is this 1698 01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:33,800 is this Plaza with these huge megaliths 1699 01:19:38,530 --> 01:19:36,320 these huge boulders stones some of the 1700 01:19:41,770 --> 01:19:38,540 whaling weighing way over 100 tons and 1701 01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:41,780 they're put together seamlessly there's 1702 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:44,480 no mortar and they withstood thousands 1703 01:19:48,370 --> 01:19:46,490 of years of earthquakes and and it's 1704 01:19:50,740 --> 01:19:48,380 seamless construction and then above it 1705 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:50,750 you see the Inca slop which doesn't look 1706 01:19:58,270 --> 01:19:54,530 anything like what saqsaywaman is the 1707 01:20:00,100 --> 01:19:58,280 original builders now all the tour 1708 01:20:03,010 --> 01:20:00,110 guides from Peru will tell you 1709 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:03,020 immediately oh it's all Inca the Inca 1710 01:20:06,810 --> 01:20:05,090 built this the Inca built that and will 1711 01:20:10,330 --> 01:20:06,820 you sit there and we just laugh because 1712 01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:10,340 are you trying to tell me that a Stone 1713 01:20:18,970 --> 01:20:15,280 Age culture who had copper copper tools 1714 01:20:21,130 --> 01:20:18,980 was able to cut andesite show me and you 1715 01:20:23,230 --> 01:20:21,140 can't I mean I got a I got a guy that 1716 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:23,240 sent me a video he's got a copper chisel 1717 01:20:28,150 --> 01:20:25,850 and he's trying to cut andesite a block 1718 01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:28,160 of andesite just cut it mm-hmm just just 1719 01:20:32,110 --> 01:20:29,960 do something with it guess what happens 1720 01:20:33,850 --> 01:20:32,120 after like two or three hits the copper 1721 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:33,860 chisels completely useless it's dull 1722 01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:34,730 mm-hmm 1723 01:20:40,630 --> 01:20:37,040 it doesn't work and see this is the type 1724 01:20:44,110 --> 01:20:40,640 of dishonesty disingenuous nonsense 1725 01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:44,120 which which is rife in academia you know 1726 01:20:48,430 --> 01:20:45,710 don't confuse us with the facts 1727 01:20:51,010 --> 01:20:48,440 don't you know obfuscate obfuscate opera 1728 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:51,020 skate deny deny deny deny if someone has 1729 01:20:55,390 --> 01:20:53,090 a different opinion like like the guy 1730 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:55,400 here at in Southern California my neck 1731 01:21:00,040 --> 01:20:57,890 of the woods I forget I think he was at 1732 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:00,050 UCLA but I'm not sure but he was a 1733 01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:02,210 geologist or he was part of the faculty 1734 01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,340 and he was saying wait a minute you know 1735 01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:06,560 these dinosaur bones whatever I mean 1736 01:21:10,930 --> 01:21:08,750 this was not like living living tissue 1737 01:21:12,970 --> 01:21:10,940 he was immediately dismissed because of 1738 01:21:15,070 --> 01:21:12,980 his Christian beliefs well we don't want 1739 01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:15,080 that type of religious bigotry here well 1740 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:18,280 we sued guess what the data showed that 1741 01:21:24,580 --> 01:21:22,130 there were living tissue and suppose it 1742 01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:24,590 fossils you know 80 million years old or 1743 01:21:29,170 --> 01:21:26,600 whatever pick your year right and it's 1744 01:21:30,850 --> 01:21:29,180 like he wasn't he won the lawsuit that 1745 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:30,860 was that made national news the guy won 1746 01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,770 the lawsuit it's like hello there is a 1747 01:21:37,930 --> 01:21:35,600 deliberate obfuscation go see if you 1748 01:21:39,550 --> 01:21:37,940 don't believe me I would make this movie 1749 01:21:40,510 --> 01:21:39,560 except Ben Stein's already made it and 1750 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:40,520 it's excellent 1751 01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:43,010 it's called expels no intelligence 1752 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:44,480 allowed right in the bottom line 1753 01:21:48,490 --> 01:21:46,250 anything that goes up against the 1754 01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:48,500 Darwinian paradigm is immediately dealt 1755 01:21:52,690 --> 01:21:50,450 with so we're not trying to go up 1756 01:21:56,620 --> 01:21:52,700 against the Darwinian paradigm all we're 1757 01:21:59,440 --> 01:21:56,630 saying is we've got hard core hard cold 1758 01:22:01,960 --> 01:21:59,450 data you guys need to look at it more 1759 01:22:03,820 --> 01:22:01,970 testing needs to be done here's the data 1760 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:03,830 this is what we discovered so far we've 1761 01:22:08,860 --> 01:22:06,530 got more questions than answers and and 1762 01:22:11,290 --> 01:22:08,870 and back to Peru and the Ministry of 1763 01:22:15,190 --> 01:22:11,300 Culture and Antiquities down there how 1764 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:15,200 they're dealing with this there is also 1765 01:22:22,690 --> 01:22:19,930 the the the possibility of tourism 1766 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:22,700 elevating the status of Peru its 1767 01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:25,610 importance in all of humanity in our 1768 01:22:29,530 --> 01:22:27,350 history and where we came from in our 1769 01:22:31,630 --> 01:22:29,540 culture it's all right there and it 1770 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:31,640 seems to be focused on them right now 1771 01:22:37,979 --> 01:22:34,370 and they just don't get it and the 1772 01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:37,989 interest is there I I don't understand 1773 01:22:44,260 --> 01:22:41,840 why why they're not cooperating and and 1774 01:22:46,570 --> 01:22:44,270 allowing this and investigating or 1775 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:46,580 investing from the government back into 1776 01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:47,890 this because 1777 01:22:51,690 --> 01:22:50,350 it's it's a paradigm shifting situation 1778 01:22:54,450 --> 01:22:51,700 that is going on down there right now 1779 01:22:59,220 --> 01:22:54,460 unfortunately what we have found is 1780 01:23:01,740 --> 01:22:59,230 there's a lazy Fair attitude with with 1781 01:23:04,740 --> 01:23:01,750 much of academia with this I mean you 1782 01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:04,750 would think that any anthropologist 1783 01:23:09,630 --> 01:23:06,520 would be beating his way immediately 1784 01:23:11,970 --> 01:23:09,640 down to paratus and and securing permits 1785 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:11,980 and studying these things it's just not 1786 01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:15,010 so we're the only group I know that I 1787 01:23:19,260 --> 01:23:16,960 could be wrong in this I'm sure there's 1788 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:19,270 others who are attempting a study and I 1789 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:21,250 know we that the one archaeologist went 1790 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:23,890 down several years ago I get that but 1791 01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:26,890 you know did he actually sample any 1792 01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,510 paratus we don't know that he wouldn't 1793 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:30,400 answer us so we don't even know whether 1794 01:23:37,050 --> 01:23:34,330 that was done or not this may be the 1795 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:37,060 first team within the last let's say 1796 01:23:42,210 --> 01:23:40,450 five years that have had any results 1797 01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:42,220 from two different museums different 1798 01:23:46,020 --> 01:23:44,110 samples you know you've got over 35 1799 01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:46,030 samples we need a lot more we're just 1800 01:23:49,740 --> 01:23:47,740 beginning a database we're just 1801 01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:49,750 beginning the research we'd like to do a 1802 01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:52,000 lot more but just to get the permit was 1803 01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:54,580 four years Jimmy four years of red tape 1804 01:23:59,070 --> 01:23:57,520 and paperwork and this and that and you 1805 01:24:00,900 --> 01:23:59,080 know what labs you gotta send it to it 1806 01:24:03,060 --> 01:24:00,910 oh my gosh it's like what do you we're 1807 01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:03,070 just taking some samples guys it's not 1808 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:05,020 like we're looting the peruvian treasury 1809 01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:07,330 here you know it's just so peru needs to 1810 01:24:12,630 --> 01:24:09,580 wake up with all due respect in my 1811 01:24:15,330 --> 01:24:12,640 opinion but also you know i'm up just 1812 01:24:16,740 --> 01:24:15,340 bagging on Peru universities the 1813 01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:16,750 university system in the united states 1814 01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:19,150 needs to wake up and not be afraid of 1815 01:24:23,790 --> 01:24:22,150 the results if it goes against look 1816 01:24:26,010 --> 01:24:23,800 these guys are supposed to be science 1817 01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:26,020 and you go where the evidence takes you 1818 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:28,780 we're not fudging the data right like I 1819 01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:30,730 did with climate change oh well we don't 1820 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:32,440 like that data we'll just throw that out 1821 01:24:36,510 --> 01:24:34,810 and create our own data so we get the 1822 01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:36,520 results that we want we're not doing 1823 01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:36,940 that 1824 01:24:44,810 --> 01:24:42,190 feel at this juncture in our research we 1825 01:24:47,820 --> 01:24:44,820 need to go public let the people know 1826 01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:47,830 let people with some deep pockets that 1827 01:24:51,870 --> 01:24:50,200 want to invest in this thing invest 1828 01:24:55,230 --> 01:24:51,880 because that's what it's going to take 1829 01:25:00,510 --> 01:24:55,240 you know there are reports that I have 1830 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:00,520 read that there are in Nazca 40 that's a 1831 01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:01,850 foreign is zero 1832 01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:07,040 pyramids and they are there completely 1833 01:25:11,540 --> 01:25:10,080 untouched yeah there's there's no money 1834 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:11,550 they don't want to go there's no 1835 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:14,370 archeology being done there's no science 1836 01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:17,010 being applied they are just sitting 1837 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:21,630 there degrading and there's a menu and 1838 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:24,330 when you want to go and do something it 1839 01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:27,090 takes you four years it's just it is 1840 01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:29,670 absolutely on look there was this one 1841 01:25:34,460 --> 01:25:31,260 site Brien Foerster took us to was 1842 01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:34,470 called camacho okay and there was this 1843 01:25:39,620 --> 01:25:37,230 one site that senior Salvador that the 1844 01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:39,630 Vacarro discovered and he took senior 1845 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:41,760 one there and then you know and Brian 1846 01:25:48,380 --> 01:25:45,570 and then us and it was a massive grave 1847 01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:48,390 it was a common grave on a high place 1848 01:25:55,250 --> 01:25:52,110 and everyone there had gone for trauma 1849 01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,260 blunt-force trauma to the to the left 1850 01:26:00,020 --> 01:25:57,360 side of the skull which means a guy with 1851 01:26:01,970 --> 01:26:00,030 a war club you know whacked him on the 1852 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:01,980 on the skull sided they had killed them 1853 01:26:07,850 --> 01:26:04,530 and then they fell into a pit very 1854 01:26:10,940 --> 01:26:07,860 shallow grave and we counted one time 1855 01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:10,950 when I was there 60 skulls and many of 1856 01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:12,870 them had that you know blunt-force 1857 01:26:17,180 --> 01:26:15,750 trauma all were elongated what's that 1858 01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:17,190 about and get this 1859 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:21,840 I had a forensic anthropologist lined up 1860 01:26:29,210 --> 01:26:26,250 I was gonna pay him fly him down put him 1861 01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:29,220 up for a week pay him $1,500 or a 1862 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:30,510 thousand fifteen hundred dollars 1863 01:26:36,290 --> 01:26:34,050 whatever for his time all the airfare 1864 01:26:38,510 --> 01:26:36,300 wine him and dine him a whole deal come 1865 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:38,520 down you've got a look at this what are 1866 01:26:44,060 --> 01:26:40,530 we looking at the last minute he pulls 1867 01:26:46,010 --> 01:26:44,070 out you know why he was afraid was 1868 01:26:48,590 --> 01:26:46,020 afraid of the blowback afraid of the 1869 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:48,600 blowback so the last time I was there 1870 01:26:54,830 --> 01:26:51,930 they put a new highway in get this Jimmy 1871 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:54,840 they put a new highway in which cuts off 1872 01:26:58,220 --> 01:26:57,210 the drive from Lima Napa raucous by 1873 01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:58,230 almost an hour 1874 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:00,300 that's great big four-lane modern 1875 01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,730 highway love it okay the problem is the 1876 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:05,280 highway is within a half a mile maybe 1877 01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,770 even less of this one particular site 1878 01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:10,320 where before there was nothing there 1879 01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:12,150 nothing it was out in the middle of it 1880 01:27:17,070 --> 01:27:14,590 was in the boonies now what 1881 01:27:19,470 --> 01:27:17,080 the squatters come in and they stake out 1882 01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:19,480 the land even though they won't own it 1883 01:27:24,060 --> 01:27:22,180 for maybe a decade they stake it out and 1884 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:24,070 that last time I was there which was 1885 01:27:30,990 --> 01:27:26,970 just this year mando and I found it and 1886 01:27:33,060 --> 01:27:31,000 sure enough it was staked out and it was 1887 01:27:35,460 --> 01:27:33,070 still there but that's gonna be lost 1888 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:35,470 forever we'll never know and I think in 1889 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:38,890 it there's that that site has vital 1890 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:42,250 information vital information of what 1891 01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:44,290 happened to the paratus people at the 1892 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:46,360 end because it was a mass slaughter 1893 01:27:52,350 --> 01:27:48,330 there why did that happen 1894 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:52,360 yeah exactly well February 2nd very 1895 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:54,130 excited about this la and 1896 01:27:59,190 --> 01:27:56,650 congratulations on that and and we'll 1897 01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,200 get you right back on the show after 1898 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:01,120 their after their announced and we'll 1899 01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:03,490 see you down there finish it thank you 1900 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:08,590 LA Marzulli everybody la Marzulli dotnet 1901 01:28:15,570 --> 01:28:11,650 okay up next after this short break Rick 1902 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:15,580 Shaw is here Richard Shaw and we're 1903 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:17,410 gonna talk about near-death experiences 1904 01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:20,290 and of course the best of Watchers the 1905 01:28:27,729 --> 01:28:21,420 series I'll be right back 1906 01:28:34,540 --> 01:28:30,510 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1907 01:28:36,820 --> 01:28:34,550 you're listening to fade to black always 1908 01:28:39,700 --> 01:28:36,830 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1909 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gonna 1991 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:15,060 discuss nd ease the near-death 1992 01:33:19,459 --> 01:33:17,130 experience which is featured in a 1993 01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,469 segment on the new Watchers best of DVD 1994 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:20,880 I would like to welcome back to fade to 1995 01:33:26,900 --> 01:33:23,520 black Richard Shaw we call him Rick 1996 01:33:28,670 --> 01:33:26,910 around here Rick good evening hey hey 1997 01:33:30,380 --> 01:33:28,680 Jimmy how are you thanks a lot it's 1998 01:33:32,630 --> 01:33:30,390 great to be on this evening by the way I 1999 01:33:34,729 --> 01:33:32,640 love your your break music it's terrific 2000 01:33:36,140 --> 01:33:34,739 yeah that's a guy named my doug aldrich 2001 01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:36,150 I would like to say it's me playing 2002 01:33:41,660 --> 01:33:39,600 guitar but it is not nice 2003 01:33:43,310 --> 01:33:41,670 great stuff really punchy yeah he's 2004 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:43,320 amazing he's amazing 2005 01:33:49,910 --> 01:33:47,850 now the watchers that went I remember 2006 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:49,920 when you and I met and we met by 2007 01:33:55,670 --> 01:33:51,810 accident one night we were at a 2008 01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:55,680 conference together and and then I found 2009 01:33:59,360 --> 01:33:57,690 out well we found out who each other 2010 01:34:03,650 --> 01:33:59,370 were and that was that was great that 2011 01:34:05,450 --> 01:34:03,660 was fun but I I went back and and 2012 01:34:09,140 --> 01:34:05,460 started watching all of the Watchers 2013 01:34:12,500 --> 01:34:09,150 again and I've got to say you you really 2014 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:12,510 must be proud because the the way that 2015 01:34:18,260 --> 01:34:14,489 you approach and the way that you do 2016 01:34:20,690 --> 01:34:18,270 these documentary episodes on all of 2017 01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:20,700 these subjects it's well done and it's 2018 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:22,500 well presented do you look back 2019 01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:26,130 would you do anything different well 2020 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:28,080 when we first started we were running on 2021 01:34:33,290 --> 01:34:31,170 a shoestring literally and you know the 2022 01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:33,300 the quality the production value is 2023 01:34:37,490 --> 01:34:35,760 increased gradually through the series 2024 01:34:39,950 --> 01:34:37,500 as we were able to fund it a little 2025 01:34:41,990 --> 01:34:39,960 better that's my only thing you know I 2026 01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:42,000 wish that I'd had a larger crew and 2027 01:34:47,180 --> 01:34:44,280 could have done more effects and and 2028 01:34:49,010 --> 01:34:47,190 made the show pop even even more than I 2029 01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:49,020 was able to but you know you do what you 2030 01:34:55,790 --> 01:34:52,080 can based on the budget you have to work 2031 01:35:00,020 --> 01:34:55,800 with and I think what we tried to do is 2032 01:35:03,650 --> 01:35:00,030 make a very non preachy very scientific 2033 01:35:06,380 --> 01:35:03,660 expose on all of these paranormal topics 2034 01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:06,390 that are verging into the supernatural 2035 01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:09,330 yeah and and you're right though it did 2036 01:35:13,580 --> 01:35:11,490 get bigger and cinematic and and 2037 01:35:16,490 --> 01:35:13,590 certainly you guys started traveling and 2038 01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:16,500 doing things but I got to tell you it's 2039 01:35:20,060 --> 01:35:18,630 it's just presented in such a way where 2040 01:35:22,460 --> 01:35:20,070 you get to the end of one of the 2041 01:35:23,900 --> 01:35:22,470 Watchers episodes and you're like man I 2042 01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:23,910 you know what I've just got to watch 2043 01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:27,090 this again and that's no I'm not kidding 2044 01:35:30,860 --> 01:35:28,560 I don't say that about everything no 2045 01:35:32,690 --> 01:35:30,870 thanks thanks I mean we did have a time 2046 01:35:34,730 --> 01:35:32,700 there where people were doing Watchers 2047 01:35:36,890 --> 01:35:34,740 parties and they would you know 2048 01:35:38,750 --> 01:35:36,900 depending on how many were done at the 2049 01:35:40,970 --> 01:35:38,760 time they would they would go in and and 2050 01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:40,980 invite all their friends over and have a 2051 01:35:45,410 --> 01:35:43,110 watchers marathon like it would last all 2052 01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:45,420 day you know and maybe they're still 2053 01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:47,400 doing that I don't know but now it's 2054 01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:49,920 like a 14-hour stretch of material to 2055 01:35:56,210 --> 01:35:52,110 watch yeah I remember that and Watchers 2056 01:35:59,930 --> 01:35:56,220 8 is out man it's out it's I did I do 2057 01:36:06,740 --> 01:35:59,940 remember that now the near-death 2058 01:36:10,340 --> 01:36:06,750 experience which for me is is a real one 2059 01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:10,350 I've interviewed so many now and when I 2060 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:13,440 say real what I mean by that is there is 2061 01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:16,610 something going on I think everybody's 2062 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:19,080 experienced that has gone through it is 2063 01:36:24,260 --> 01:36:22,170 independent I because everybody has got 2064 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:24,270 a different take on and what has 2065 01:36:29,300 --> 01:36:26,010 happened to them and I've had some 2066 01:36:33,229 --> 01:36:29,310 fascinating interviews on this show for 2067 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:33,239 you what's your definition of NDE 2068 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:37,170 well I came to know dr. Geoffrey long 2069 01:36:44,270 --> 01:36:40,170 back in 2004 and this was before I even 2070 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:44,280 met la Marzulli and because I was really 2071 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:46,410 impressed with his research the website 2072 01:36:52,820 --> 01:36:49,650 that he has up there a tender org is 2073 01:36:55,940 --> 01:36:52,830 probably the most complete expose of the 2074 01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:55,950 near-death experience in human history I 2075 01:37:02,120 --> 01:36:59,280 mean he has something like 4,000 tales 2076 01:37:03,890 --> 01:37:02,130 of people's actual experiences that 2077 01:37:05,630 --> 01:37:03,900 they've submitted and then he has a 2078 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:05,640 little questionnaire that they each fill 2079 01:37:09,470 --> 01:37:07,770 out well were you conscious during this 2080 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:09,480 or what caused you you know did you have 2081 01:37:14,959 --> 01:37:11,730 an accident or was this a you know some 2082 01:37:17,209 --> 01:37:14,969 kind of a problem a health-related issue 2083 01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:17,219 or what caused you know and then you go 2084 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:19,260 through this whole list so it's you know 2085 01:37:22,910 --> 01:37:20,850 some of it you read it and you go oh 2086 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:22,920 people made that one up but then there's 2087 01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:25,850 others that are just stunningly 2088 01:37:34,570 --> 01:37:30,719 incredibly interesting and it was dr. 2089 01:37:37,790 --> 01:37:34,580 long that introduced us to Howard storm 2090 01:37:40,370 --> 01:37:37,800 which was one of the most amazing 2091 01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,380 near-death experiences I've ever heard 2092 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:42,719 and I've been reading about this and 2093 01:37:47,780 --> 01:37:45,810 studying it for decades and now I think 2094 01:37:50,420 --> 01:37:47,790 we have a really good idea of what 2095 01:37:55,310 --> 01:37:50,430 happens when you die I mean we we kind 2096 01:37:57,410 --> 01:37:55,320 of know the the vague details actually a 2097 01:38:00,830 --> 01:37:57,420 little bit more than vague of what 2098 01:38:05,420 --> 01:38:00,840 happens to you and it's nothing to be 2099 01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:05,430 frightened of unless you've been a very 2100 01:38:12,620 --> 01:38:09,900 mean person that's all I could say but 2101 01:38:15,380 --> 01:38:12,630 it's it's I think it's different than a 2102 01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:15,390 lot of what the church thinks it is and 2103 01:38:20,810 --> 01:38:17,450 I think it's different than what 2104 01:38:23,090 --> 01:38:20,820 atheists think it is and somewhere in 2105 01:38:27,170 --> 01:38:23,100 between well tell us about Howard 2106 01:38:30,260 --> 01:38:27,180 because he wasn't well I want your take 2107 01:38:34,130 --> 01:38:30,270 on him but by all accounts he wasn't 2108 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:34,140 really the nicest guy either no at one 2109 01:38:40,910 --> 01:38:37,530 time and he revealed that and the best 2110 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:40,920 of Watchers that we just put out because 2111 01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:44,010 we thought that people needed one DVD 2112 01:38:48,350 --> 01:38:46,710 they could pop in and see 2113 01:38:50,300 --> 01:38:48,360 all of the coolest segments from the 2114 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:50,310 entire series when they don't have 14 2115 01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,930 hours to watch the whole thing or they 2116 01:38:57,950 --> 01:38:54,239 might not want to spend $100 to buy the 2117 01:39:00,800 --> 01:38:57,960 whole set this way you can get 10 of the 2118 01:39:05,260 --> 01:39:00,810 the hottest segments from the series and 2119 01:39:07,940 --> 01:39:05,270 so we we closed that series with 2120 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:07,950 segments 10 howard storms near-death 2121 01:39:14,180 --> 01:39:11,610 experience and you know it was okay the 2122 01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:14,190 way it was edited when we first put it 2123 01:39:19,340 --> 01:39:17,040 out but you know I thought I could make 2124 01:39:20,780 --> 01:39:19,350 this better so I went back and found all 2125 01:39:23,390 --> 01:39:20,790 of the original interview with Howard 2126 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:23,400 and I added a bunch of stuff that wasn't 2127 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:25,770 in there and replaced the music I added 2128 01:39:30,890 --> 01:39:28,890 new graphics and now he kind of reveals 2129 01:39:33,190 --> 01:39:30,900 in this new segment which I call the 2130 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:33,200 director's cut of the howard storm in de 2131 01:39:39,229 --> 01:39:36,210 he reveals that he really wasn't a nice 2132 01:39:41,930 --> 01:39:39,239 person he he was he was more or less a 2133 01:39:44,420 --> 01:39:41,940 he was a shot putter he was a big 2134 01:39:47,570 --> 01:39:44,430 strapping dude in those days and he 2135 01:39:51,290 --> 01:39:47,580 would use that to kind of bully people 2136 01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:51,300 to do what they wanted him him did you 2137 01:39:58,610 --> 01:39:55,920 know it basically was not easy to get 2138 01:40:02,750 --> 01:39:58,620 along with and so he found himself in 2139 01:40:06,140 --> 01:40:02,760 this really horrendous place after after 2140 01:40:08,959 --> 01:40:06,150 he passed away in a hospital in Paris 2141 01:40:12,290 --> 01:40:08,969 and the whole story is just it's just 2142 01:40:15,290 --> 01:40:12,300 really gripping it really is I mean it's 2143 01:40:17,780 --> 01:40:15,300 just and I think what's so interesting 2144 01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:17,790 about Howard is just the the depth of 2145 01:40:25,790 --> 01:40:21,510 detail that he put into it well so what 2146 01:40:30,020 --> 01:40:25,800 happened he had something my memory 2147 01:40:32,510 --> 01:40:30,030 which isn't you know the best but he he 2148 01:40:34,700 --> 01:40:32,520 had like an ulcer or something he had 2149 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:34,710 he's called it a perforation in his 2150 01:40:39,770 --> 01:40:37,890 small stomach okay and so essentially 2151 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:39,780 what that did was allowed all this 2152 01:40:48,370 --> 01:40:43,170 hydrochloric acid to come pouring out 2153 01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:48,380 into his upper chest and diaphragm area 2154 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:52,080 so it just kept leaking out and this 2155 01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,250 went on for hours now the doctors here 2156 01:41:00,530 --> 01:40:59,280 in the States compared it to having not 2157 01:41:02,750 --> 01:41:00,540 just an inflamed 2158 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:02,760 pendeks but in actual burst appendix 2159 01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:05,370 worse you know you have waste material 2160 01:41:10,330 --> 01:41:07,920 just going into into your vital organs 2161 01:41:14,210 --> 01:41:10,340 and into your body and in his case 2162 01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:14,220 because it was this acid coming out of 2163 01:41:19,730 --> 01:41:17,040 his stomach he thought he had been shot 2164 01:41:23,630 --> 01:41:19,740 because he had this this burning 2165 01:41:26,900 --> 01:41:23,640 sensation in his chest but that wasn't 2166 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:26,910 the case he had stomach acid leaking out 2167 01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:29,130 and it and it kept leaking out and 2168 01:41:34,730 --> 01:41:30,900 leaking out and he said that not only 2169 01:41:36,890 --> 01:41:34,740 was he you know having this toxicity 2170 01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:36,900 going into his body but he was 2171 01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:39,840 dissolving as his own organs from his 2172 01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:43,440 stomach acid and you you can't go on 2173 01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:45,330 living like that very long a few hours 2174 01:41:50,170 --> 01:41:46,490 and you're dead 2175 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:50,180 and so he said it just got so painful 2176 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:54,090 just to breathe that at a certain point 2177 01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:56,970 he just couldn't do it anymore and he 2178 01:42:03,490 --> 01:41:58,920 stopped breathing next thing he knew he 2179 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:03,500 had popped out of his body and now he 2180 01:42:09,230 --> 01:42:06,810 let's continue with this so he he has 2181 01:42:13,850 --> 01:42:09,240 his NDE goes in the hot bath and things 2182 01:42:17,180 --> 01:42:13,860 happen and he's got a little bit of a 2183 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:17,190 life review going on with him he it 2184 01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:19,170 reminds me a little bit of Danny and 2185 01:42:25,250 --> 01:42:22,800 Brinkley in that before Dan Yin was 2186 01:42:27,770 --> 01:42:25,260 struck by lightning he wasn't the most 2187 01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:27,780 pleasant guy to be around either it was 2188 01:42:33,410 --> 01:42:30,510 a former military guy right and and he 2189 01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:33,420 liked to beat people up you know yeah I 2190 01:42:38,210 --> 01:42:36,510 mean he was involved in blowing up stuff 2191 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,220 with people in it you know at one point 2192 01:42:43,940 --> 01:42:40,080 that's Danny and Brinkley not Howard 2193 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:43,950 storm right Howard storm yeah Howard 2194 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:45,810 storm was a well he was an art teacher 2195 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:48,090 at that point in his life and dannion 2196 01:42:55,700 --> 01:42:52,410 brinkley got struck by lightning and did 2197 01:42:58,010 --> 01:42:55,710 have a life review and and saw how he 2198 01:43:01,130 --> 01:42:58,020 treated others and what's what's really 2199 01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:01,140 fascinating jimmy is that when you have 2200 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:04,320 this life review you not only get to see 2201 01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:07,890 what you did how you screwed up but 2202 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:10,560 instead the tables are turned you become 2203 01:43:13,770 --> 01:43:13,050 the person that you've inflicted pain on 2204 01:43:16,710 --> 01:43:13,780 right 2205 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:16,720 and you feel their emotions and their 2206 01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:19,650 humiliation for what you did to them and 2207 01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:24,070 that's just that's a terrifying thought 2208 01:43:30,510 --> 01:43:28,000 but that's that's why we want to want to 2209 01:43:33,180 --> 01:43:30,520 treat people in a good way so we don't 2210 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:33,190 have to experience that later but that's 2211 01:43:41,730 --> 01:43:38,290 how we learn and so then in the case of 2212 01:43:45,690 --> 01:43:41,740 Danny and Brinkley he had these beings 2213 01:43:47,190 --> 01:43:45,700 come up to him with with these boxes and 2214 01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:47,200 they were showing him the future I don't 2215 01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:48,790 like to remember that part but that's in 2216 01:43:52,020 --> 01:43:51,220 his first book called saved by the light 2217 01:43:54,210 --> 01:43:52,030 right 2218 01:43:56,700 --> 01:43:54,220 he's written like three I believe and 2219 01:44:00,000 --> 01:43:56,710 he's he's died more than once for from 2220 01:44:02,670 --> 01:44:00,010 various things but in howard's case he 2221 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:02,680 didn't really have a life review so much 2222 01:44:08,700 --> 01:44:05,650 as he realized that he was being led 2223 01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:08,710 down the primrose path and what's 2224 01:44:14,850 --> 01:44:10,990 interesting about howard's experience is 2225 01:44:16,590 --> 01:44:14,860 that he was led what he thought he was 2226 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:16,600 being led down the hallway but but 2227 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:20,170 before that he he realized he saw this 2228 01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:22,480 guy laying in in the bed that he had 2229 01:44:26,130 --> 01:44:24,130 just been laying in and he didn't know 2230 01:44:28,380 --> 01:44:26,140 who this person was and he said well how 2231 01:44:31,230 --> 01:44:28,390 could they and it look like himself and 2232 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:31,240 he's global how could they how could 2233 01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:33,850 they have made a wax figure of me that 2234 01:44:37,770 --> 01:44:36,100 quickly that's what he was thinking but 2235 01:44:40,740 --> 01:44:37,780 then he realized what a ridiculous 2236 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:40,750 notion that was hmm and he was sitting 2237 01:44:45,150 --> 01:44:42,730 on the bed where he was just in looking 2238 01:44:47,460 --> 01:44:45,160 down at himself and there was another 2239 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:47,470 man like Nix next to him that he was 2240 01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:48,970 trying to get his attention and he was 2241 01:44:52,650 --> 01:44:50,590 yelling in the guy's face and the guy 2242 01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:52,660 obviously couldn't hear him because 2243 01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:54,310 Howard was in another dimension at that 2244 01:44:59,550 --> 01:44:57,610 point so he couldn't get anybody's 2245 01:45:01,680 --> 01:44:59,560 attention but then a couple orderly say 2246 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:01,690 okay come on Howard we got to take you 2247 01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:04,090 down the hall and he's in his bare feet 2248 01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:08,080 and he said he could feel in the in the 2249 01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:10,480 bottom of the soles of his feet the 2250 01:45:14,730 --> 01:45:12,790 floor as if he was touching it with the 2251 01:45:17,550 --> 01:45:14,740 palms of his hands he had that much 2252 01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:17,560 sensitivity to what was going on and not 2253 01:45:22,410 --> 01:45:20,350 only that he said he had 360 degree 2254 01:45:24,330 --> 01:45:22,420 vision he could see in front and back at 2255 01:45:25,090 --> 01:45:24,340 the same time I don't ask me how that 2256 01:45:28,210 --> 01:45:25,100 works 2257 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:28,220 but that's what he said so they let him 2258 01:45:35,530 --> 01:45:32,210 down this hallway and he said there was 2259 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:35,540 no more pain everything was like super 2260 01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:38,690 crisp and it was like hyper reality at 2261 01:45:43,420 --> 01:45:40,910 that point not like the life that we 2262 01:45:46,210 --> 01:45:43,430 have now that we're living this is like 2263 01:45:48,430 --> 01:45:46,220 hyper reality your your body's back to 2264 01:45:51,700 --> 01:45:48,440 its what we think we could call it our 2265 01:45:53,530 --> 01:45:51,710 natural state and he's being led down 2266 01:45:55,450 --> 01:45:53,540 this hallway then he realized it's 2267 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:55,460 getting darker and more diffuse and he 2268 01:45:59,800 --> 01:45:57,530 can't see anything anymore and and 2269 01:46:02,020 --> 01:45:59,810 there's and then he realizes that 2270 01:46:04,540 --> 01:46:02,030 there's more people with him and more 2271 01:46:07,330 --> 01:46:04,550 people and they're whispering and then 2272 01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:07,340 they start making fun of him and hitting 2273 01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:09,410 and beating him up so then he you know 2274 01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:11,840 he goes okay you know what doesn't kill 2275 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:13,520 me makes me stronger he said he was very 2276 01:46:18,190 --> 01:46:15,290 neat she back then he was like really 2277 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:18,200 trying to you know it's like okay I'll 2278 01:46:22,590 --> 01:46:20,330 take you guys on but they were just 2279 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:22,600 there were just too many of them and 2280 01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:25,850 just started ripping his skin and 2281 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:28,490 hurting him but what was really 2282 01:46:36,580 --> 01:46:31,810 interesting is that he knew these people 2283 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:36,590 you know each of them by name and they 2284 01:46:44,530 --> 01:46:40,610 were he just called them people that had 2285 01:46:46,180 --> 01:46:44,540 died humans in Howard's own words he 2286 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:46,190 said people that had totally missed the 2287 01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:49,610 boat and so now they're in this kind of 2288 01:46:57,070 --> 01:46:53,840 weird limbo area leading down to a very 2289 01:47:00,100 --> 01:46:57,080 hellish existence and he was just like 2290 01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:00,110 you know basically laying on the ground 2291 01:47:05,170 --> 01:47:03,410 in a puddle of blood and material and 2292 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:05,180 they're beating him and it pretty soon 2293 01:47:09,730 --> 01:47:07,570 he said he couldn't even react anymore 2294 01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:09,740 he was just laying there on the ground 2295 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:12,560 in a fetal position as they were beating 2296 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:15,650 up on him and then then a voice kind of 2297 01:47:20,650 --> 01:47:18,890 came to him and said pray to God he 2298 01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:20,660 didn't know how to do that because he 2299 01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:23,450 basically you know he he was reading 2300 01:47:31,150 --> 01:47:26,480 like jean-paul Sartre Nietzsche and he 2301 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:31,160 was he was he was basically not doing 2302 01:47:36,820 --> 01:47:33,170 anything that that we might call 2303 01:47:38,849 --> 01:47:36,830 religious not that that to get to heaven 2304 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:38,859 you have to be religious 2305 01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:41,530 because I really truly believe God looks 2306 01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,129 upon your heart it's not how what you do 2307 01:47:50,429 --> 01:47:47,679 or any-any wrote that you do in church 2308 01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:50,439 that gets you there it's basically you 2309 01:47:56,429 --> 01:47:54,280 know who you really are inside and so 2310 01:47:58,679 --> 01:47:56,439 Howard started you know he didn't know 2311 01:48:01,979 --> 01:47:58,689 how to pray or anything like that see he 2312 01:48:05,729 --> 01:48:01,989 started like quoting poem said he 2313 01:48:07,739 --> 01:48:05,739 learned in school and and songs you know 2314 01:48:09,689 --> 01:48:07,749 lyrics to songs they did remember my 2315 01:48:11,099 --> 01:48:09,699 country tis a fee and that wasn't 2316 01:48:12,929 --> 01:48:11,109 working and he finally you know 2317 01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,939 remembered back when he was a little kid 2318 01:48:17,429 --> 01:48:14,800 there was this one song jesus loves me 2319 01:48:20,849 --> 01:48:17,439 this I know then he started like saying 2320 01:48:24,419 --> 01:48:20,859 that and he said anytime he used the 2321 01:48:27,569 --> 01:48:24,429 word Jesus that these demonic forces it 2322 01:48:29,339 --> 01:48:27,579 was like you were pouring boiling oil 2323 01:48:32,129 --> 01:48:29,349 over them at least that's what he told 2324 01:48:35,029 --> 01:48:32,139 me in private discussions well let me 2325 01:48:38,939 --> 01:48:35,039 jump in right here for a second because 2326 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:38,949 and dropping Nietzsche for him at this 2327 01:48:45,359 --> 01:48:42,010 point suggests obviously that he wasn't 2328 01:48:48,179 --> 01:48:45,369 religious and was probably atheist sort 2329 01:48:50,219 --> 01:48:48,189 or didn't didn't understand the 2330 01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:50,229 religious aspects of what may have been 2331 01:48:55,949 --> 01:48:52,449 happening to him at this point 2332 01:48:58,699 --> 01:48:55,959 but right yes wholly correct yes and so 2333 01:49:02,339 --> 01:48:58,709 it's suggesting with his description 2334 01:49:04,199 --> 01:49:02,349 about this and I read this a long time 2335 01:49:08,419 --> 01:49:04,209 ago so I'm just going off of my memory 2336 01:49:12,119 --> 01:49:08,429 but I remember this that he was led like 2337 01:49:15,869 --> 01:49:12,129 to the gates of hell that's where he was 2338 01:49:19,349 --> 01:49:15,879 on his way to along with everybody else 2339 01:49:22,049 --> 01:49:19,359 that's what was going on am I am I wrong 2340 01:49:24,389 --> 01:49:22,059 or that's that's that's his story right 2341 01:49:26,279 --> 01:49:24,399 that's his story I mean it didn't get 2342 01:49:27,899 --> 01:49:26,289 down to where you know the fire and 2343 01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:27,909 brimstone aspect or anything like that 2344 01:49:33,329 --> 01:49:31,209 but but it seems like and I I've studied 2345 01:49:36,029 --> 01:49:33,339 enough of these that that people that 2346 01:49:39,689 --> 01:49:36,039 have ended up in that same place relate 2347 01:49:42,419 --> 01:49:39,699 very similar experiences and this isn't 2348 01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:42,429 to like freak people out but this is 2349 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:45,280 just to basically say this is what I you 2350 01:49:50,969 --> 01:49:48,489 know a scripture has being is there to 2351 01:49:52,740 --> 01:49:50,979 try to get us to avoid that place and 2352 01:49:54,900 --> 01:49:52,750 you know he just never 2353 01:49:59,640 --> 01:49:54,910 leave that and of course jean-paul 2354 01:50:01,890 --> 01:49:59,650 Sartre wrote this book that Howard it 2355 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:01,900 read his work and he there's one really 2356 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:03,850 famous book he wrote called nausea and 2357 01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:05,770 it's just basically the futility of life 2358 01:50:10,890 --> 01:50:08,980 and it was it's almost like you know 2359 01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:10,900 like no matter what I do I'm screwed 2360 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:14,500 essentially in that book and to just to 2361 01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:17,170 put it you know in it very simply it's 2362 01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:19,870 very sure sure and so that's kind of 2363 01:50:26,670 --> 01:50:24,880 what Howard was reading and truly we 2364 01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:26,680 mean more than that where there's more 2365 01:50:33,180 --> 01:50:29,500 to what we're doing then then what comes 2366 01:50:35,190 --> 01:50:33,190 out in in Searchers book as painful to 2367 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:35,200 read that stuff it really is but so 2368 01:50:42,660 --> 01:50:39,850 anyway he the difference between Howard 2369 01:50:44,610 --> 01:50:42,670 story and Danny and Brinkley stories 2370 01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:44,620 Danny and ended up with this very 2371 01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:47,920 detailed life review Howard doesn't 2372 01:50:53,190 --> 01:50:49,540 mention that so much but Howard does 2373 01:50:55,620 --> 01:50:53,200 mention being lifted out of there and he 2374 01:50:58,860 --> 01:50:55,630 said it was it was Jesus that did that 2375 01:51:00,750 --> 01:50:58,870 no I asked him about it when we when we 2376 01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:00,760 picked him up we flew Howard in to do 2377 01:51:06,630 --> 01:51:03,640 that interview years ago for Watchers 2378 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:06,640 and so I took him out to dinner that 2379 01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:09,520 night and it was like one of the funnest 2380 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:13,390 evenings I've ever had here's the guy 2381 01:51:16,770 --> 01:51:15,010 that I've always wanted to talk to you 2382 01:51:19,020 --> 01:51:16,780 and ask questions of and I'm sitting 2383 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:19,030 across the table at him and you know I 2384 01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:22,690 wanted to ask him things that normally 2385 01:51:28,860 --> 01:51:26,050 people wouldn't ask like so what did you 2386 01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:28,870 learn about UFOs and aliens so all of 2387 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:31,510 that you know and what would Howard say 2388 01:51:35,460 --> 01:51:33,370 to all of that and he said well you know 2389 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:35,470 people might think I'm a little crazy if 2390 01:51:41,340 --> 01:51:37,330 I said Howard I don't think you're crazy 2391 01:51:43,530 --> 01:51:41,350 at all and he said he was shown when he 2392 01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:43,540 asked if there were other beings in the 2393 01:51:50,220 --> 01:51:46,030 universe he was shown what he said were 2394 01:51:53,250 --> 01:51:50,230 a parade of images and it started out 2395 01:51:57,150 --> 01:51:53,260 with normal kind of humanoid people and 2396 01:51:59,700 --> 01:51:57,160 then got you know more and more detail 2397 01:52:02,790 --> 01:51:59,710 and some almost looked like they had 2398 01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:02,800 ears like mr. Spock and then it it went 2399 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:05,350 almost into undersea creatures and this 2400 01:52:07,940 --> 01:52:06,090 that the other 2401 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:07,950 so things they had never seen before 2402 01:52:12,620 --> 01:52:09,930 until it got so weird he asked him to 2403 01:52:15,980 --> 01:52:12,630 stop that's what he told me I've never 2404 01:52:19,550 --> 01:52:15,990 heard that part of Howard's story yeah 2405 01:52:21,530 --> 01:52:19,560 did I get this totally resonated with me 2406 01:52:23,900 --> 01:52:21,540 Jimmy I really believe that there's 2407 01:52:27,980 --> 01:52:23,910 other beings in this universe sure sure 2408 01:52:31,820 --> 01:52:27,990 sure and now a couple of quick questions 2409 01:52:35,690 --> 01:52:31,830 before we hit the break his accounting 2410 01:52:37,850 --> 01:52:35,700 of how it went down for him you know the 2411 01:52:40,130 --> 01:52:37,860 torment in the the beating and so forth 2412 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:40,140 that you know he went right you know 2413 01:52:45,650 --> 01:52:42,210 right to the edge of hell but was pulled 2414 01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:45,660 back are there other accounts similar to 2415 01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:47,730 his from people that haven't read 2416 01:52:54,830 --> 01:52:52,530 Howard's account that is yes yes yes and 2417 01:53:00,380 --> 01:52:54,840 a lot of times what happens is 2418 01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:00,390 apparently it doesn't go well for a 2419 01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:04,490 person to try to commit suicide because 2420 01:53:10,820 --> 01:53:08,250 I've read cases of that and they end up 2421 01:53:14,900 --> 01:53:10,830 in the same place but what's really 2422 01:53:17,330 --> 01:53:14,910 interesting there's a guy that's on dr. 2423 01:53:20,780 --> 01:53:17,340 Long's website by the name of dr. price 2424 01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:20,790 and he wrote kind of a a review of his 2425 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:23,460 experiences on near-death experiences 2426 01:53:29,330 --> 01:53:26,850 and he said that you know like what 2427 01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:29,340 people end up in this terrible place and 2428 01:53:36,230 --> 01:53:31,440 he said in his experience that it was 2429 01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:36,240 like mean people ended up there and you 2430 01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:40,110 know it wasn't like like lesbians ended 2431 01:53:45,490 --> 01:53:42,210 up in hell or something like that which 2432 01:53:48,860 --> 01:53:45,500 which aloft the times that the church 2433 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:48,870 promulgates these views based on ancient 2434 01:53:58,340 --> 01:53:52,050 tax and I think that we have a very 2435 01:54:01,580 --> 01:53:58,350 loving creator and and basically there's 2436 01:54:04,430 --> 01:54:01,590 just when when you when you try to kill 2437 01:54:07,730 --> 01:54:04,440 yourself you're ending a life that that 2438 01:54:09,770 --> 01:54:07,740 God gave you to do something with you 2439 01:54:12,290 --> 01:54:09,780 there was a purpose for your creation 2440 01:54:14,780 --> 01:54:12,300 and for being here on this planet and 2441 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:14,790 you have a job to do that only you can 2442 01:54:19,580 --> 01:54:16,770 do like what you're doing here tonight 2443 01:54:19,979 --> 01:54:19,590 you're doing it in a way no one else can 2444 01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:19,989 do 2445 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:30,340 I'm supposed to make films that's what 2446 01:54:34,650 --> 01:54:32,290 I'm supposed to do and everybody you 2447 01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:34,660 know if we were all like a an index 2448 01:54:38,729 --> 01:54:36,580 finger we wouldn't get much done so it 2449 01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:38,739 takes all of us working together to 2450 01:54:44,729 --> 01:54:40,930 accomplish something larger than 2451 01:54:45,870 --> 01:54:44,739 ourselves do you think that and I agree 2452 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:45,880 with that 2453 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:49,360 taking religion off of the table for a 2454 01:54:53,700 --> 01:54:51,130 second all right let's take that off of 2455 01:54:56,420 --> 01:54:53,710 the table if he and I'm talking about 2456 01:54:59,550 --> 01:54:56,430 Howard if Howard didn't have his 2457 01:55:02,220 --> 01:54:59,560 religious take on things today he's a 2458 01:55:03,780 --> 01:55:02,230 minister right he became one after his 2459 01:55:06,330 --> 01:55:03,790 experience yes came one after his 2460 01:55:08,430 --> 01:55:06,340 experience do you think that if we take 2461 01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:08,440 religion off the table do you think that 2462 01:55:17,580 --> 01:55:14,170 his take on what happened to him took on 2463 01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:17,590 a religious slant because of his beliefs 2464 01:55:23,250 --> 01:55:21,010 that were later but maybe that with if 2465 01:55:26,250 --> 01:55:23,260 you take religion off the table that his 2466 01:55:28,650 --> 01:55:26,260 experiences weren't religious you know 2467 01:55:30,450 --> 01:55:28,660 like I don't think Danny and Brinkley 2468 01:55:34,709 --> 01:55:30,460 put some religious I even though he's 2469 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:34,719 maybe a religious guy but I his his 2470 01:55:39,450 --> 01:55:36,610 experiences and others that I've 2471 01:55:41,610 --> 01:55:39,460 interviewed they don't have the not all 2472 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:41,620 of them have the religious side of it 2473 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:43,750 you know what I mean like right but you 2474 01:55:47,820 --> 01:55:45,010 know I do yeah I do 2475 01:55:51,690 --> 01:55:47,830 I mean some people see Jesus some people 2476 01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:51,700 see long-lost relatives they have 2477 01:55:57,479 --> 01:55:53,950 different experiences that are custom 2478 01:56:00,360 --> 01:55:57,489 tailored to their own situation in fact 2479 01:56:03,810 --> 01:56:00,370 I asked Howard this I said okay so 2480 01:56:05,820 --> 01:56:03,820 you're say you're in in Afghanistan and 2481 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:05,830 you're in a Humvee and you're a soldier 2482 01:56:11,820 --> 01:56:08,290 there and you you run over a an 2483 01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:11,830 explosive device and your Humvee is 2484 01:56:16,890 --> 01:56:13,480 blown into a million pieces and you're 2485 01:56:18,300 --> 01:56:16,900 instantly you know killed and and parts 2486 01:56:20,729 --> 01:56:18,310 of your body are laying all over the 2487 01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:20,739 field and a million pieces what happens 2488 01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:24,400 at that point he said when someone gets 2489 01:56:28,910 --> 01:56:26,950 killed that quick they don't often 2490 01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:28,920 realize that they're dead and they're 2491 01:56:32,890 --> 01:56:31,840 kind of standing there go mmm what 2492 01:56:34,630 --> 01:56:32,900 happened 2493 01:56:36,850 --> 01:56:34,640 then you're out of your body you don't 2494 01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:36,860 feel any pain you basically are 2495 01:56:42,970 --> 01:56:39,199 completely conscious you know that it's 2496 01:56:46,510 --> 01:56:42,980 you we take these these memories of our 2497 01:56:49,540 --> 01:56:46,520 existence and who we are with us into 2498 01:56:52,450 --> 01:56:49,550 the afterlife and he said what normally 2499 01:56:55,709 --> 01:56:52,460 happens is that they meet someone that 2500 01:56:59,709 --> 01:56:55,719 they know and loved who has already died 2501 01:57:01,419 --> 01:56:59,719 comes to pick them up you know how are 2502 01:57:02,919 --> 01:57:01,429 you you know how are you sweetheart 2503 01:57:05,410 --> 01:57:02,929 you know it's just wonderful to see you 2504 01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:05,420 it's been a long time and this is like 2505 01:57:10,479 --> 01:57:08,210 then they had this realization that 2506 01:57:12,370 --> 01:57:10,489 they're in another level because it's 2507 01:57:15,580 --> 01:57:12,380 happened so fast it's such a shock to 2508 01:57:18,820 --> 01:57:15,590 the system that were given this moment 2509 01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:18,830 to adapt which i think is really loving 2510 01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:20,690 and kind that we're not just you know 2511 01:57:26,620 --> 01:57:24,650 treated like flotsam you know well yeah 2512 01:57:29,470 --> 01:57:26,630 and you don't have the option to come 2513 01:57:32,050 --> 01:57:29,480 back and not at that point no no you 2514 01:57:33,490 --> 01:57:32,060 wouldn't so it would be a little bit 2515 01:57:37,290 --> 01:57:33,500 different we need to take a break here 2516 01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:37,300 but that right there is an interesting 2517 01:57:45,490 --> 01:57:42,110 take on all of this because if you like 2518 01:57:48,250 --> 01:57:45,500 dannion right he was struck by lightning 2519 01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:48,260 but he was he he didn't you know his 2520 01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:49,760 body wasn't blown apart he had the 2521 01:57:54,669 --> 01:57:52,159 option to come back he had to heal and 2522 01:57:56,860 --> 01:57:54,679 the same thing happened with Howard but 2523 01:58:00,010 --> 01:57:56,870 you're right what if the opposite 2524 01:58:01,990 --> 01:58:00,020 happens right where that's it you you 2525 01:58:04,689 --> 01:58:02,000 just go from one realm to the other 2526 01:58:07,270 --> 01:58:04,699 instantly how are you dealing with that 2527 01:58:10,060 --> 01:58:07,280 you don't have a life review you're just 2528 01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:10,070 there you're there yeah that's a pretty 2529 01:58:13,740 --> 01:58:11,360 interesting let's take a break right 2530 01:58:16,270 --> 01:58:13,750 here our guest tonight Richard Shaw and 2531 01:58:18,189 --> 01:58:16,280 when we come back we're gonna continue 2532 01:58:20,979 --> 01:58:18,199 the near-death experience conversation 2533 01:58:22,410 --> 01:58:20,989 but also the best of Watchers is out I 2534 01:58:25,090 --> 01:58:22,420 kind of want to know what's on there 2535 01:58:26,649 --> 01:58:25,100 because I've seen them all how do you 2536 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of America and just use the promo 2630 02:03:26,780 --> 02:03:24,210 code Jimmy ji M my click on the banner 2631 02:03:29,330 --> 02:03:26,790 it'll take you over to our section of 2632 02:03:31,790 --> 02:03:29,340 new mana enter the promo code Jimmy and 2633 02:03:35,150 --> 02:03:31,800 you will get an autographed fade to 2634 02:03:39,590 --> 02:03:35,160 black t-shirt with every order over $100 2635 02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:39,600 now Richard that that's very interesting 2636 02:03:52,729 --> 02:03:51,210 about if you die instantaneous and you 2637 02:03:55,850 --> 02:03:52,739 don't have a choice and that's got to be 2638 02:03:58,820 --> 02:03:55,860 completely traumatic I mean it's the 2639 02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:58,830 most traumatic thing ever and you need 2640 02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:00,719 somebody to take you through all of this 2641 02:04:07,910 --> 02:04:05,130 in Howard's case he was able to and 2642 02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:07,920 again I'm going off of memory but I was 2643 02:04:12,530 --> 02:04:10,320 so fascinated with his near-death 2644 02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:12,540 experience and I jumped into it I 2645 02:04:20,330 --> 02:04:16,770 remember him saying that he started 2646 02:04:23,300 --> 02:04:20,340 asking questions and he wanted to know 2647 02:04:26,540 --> 02:04:23,310 about the future right about the world 2648 02:04:28,070 --> 02:04:26,550 it that that's what he died I would have 2649 02:04:31,850 --> 02:04:28,080 done the exact same thing by the way 2650 02:04:35,180 --> 02:04:31,860 what did he find out about that well he 2651 02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:35,190 was he basically he didn't really go 2652 02:04:42,979 --> 02:04:37,920 into telling us about the future so much 2653 02:04:46,130 --> 02:04:42,989 other than things that he was curious 2654 02:04:49,970 --> 02:04:46,140 about the the future was more or less 2655 02:04:53,209 --> 02:04:49,980 revealed to Danny and briefly in his 2656 02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:53,219 experience more that more than Howard's 2657 02:04:56,930 --> 02:04:55,170 but Howard just got a lot of practical 2658 02:04:58,320 --> 02:04:56,940 information that I thought was really 2659 02:04:59,580 --> 02:04:58,330 interesting and the 2660 02:05:03,540 --> 02:04:59,590 other person I was trying to remember a 2661 02:05:05,550 --> 02:05:03,550 minute ago who had member when I said 2662 02:05:08,700 --> 02:05:05,560 that people who try to commit suicide 2663 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:08,710 have a rough time of it and a really 2664 02:05:14,610 --> 02:05:11,170 great story is from a person by the name 2665 02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:14,620 of Angie Fenimore and her story's up on 2666 02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:17,110 YouTube fortunately you can find all 2667 02:05:21,330 --> 02:05:19,510 this stuff in in seconds if you just go 2668 02:05:23,970 --> 02:05:21,340 to youtube and go Angie Fenimore 2669 02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:23,980 near-death experience you can watch it 2670 02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:26,140 but she basically and had enough she had 2671 02:05:31,110 --> 02:05:28,570 been abused when she was a kid she well 2672 02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:31,120 her life wasn't going good and she took 2673 02:05:37,970 --> 02:05:35,350 some narcotics and left her body and 2674 02:05:40,500 --> 02:05:37,980 ended up in the same place Howard was in 2675 02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:40,510 that's why I kind of connected the two 2676 02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:42,970 of them and what I thought was 2677 02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:47,110 fascinating in her experience she she 2678 02:05:52,860 --> 02:05:49,210 was in she ended up in this place where 2679 02:05:54,900 --> 02:05:52,870 people were reliving their worst moments 2680 02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:54,910 in life over and over and over again 2681 02:06:00,060 --> 02:05:57,130 it's like they're stuck in a loop and 2682 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:00,070 they could get out of it merely by 2683 02:06:05,250 --> 02:06:03,010 asking for help but they don't do that 2684 02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:05,260 and this one guy had been there for 2685 02:06:09,570 --> 02:06:07,210 centuries he was wearing a dirty robe 2686 02:06:11,610 --> 02:06:09,580 and he was just you know and she thought 2687 02:06:14,250 --> 02:06:11,620 he just looked disgusting and she looked 2688 02:06:16,050 --> 02:06:14,260 down at him and and thought that and as 2689 02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:16,060 soon as she thought that had that 2690 02:06:21,170 --> 02:06:18,970 thought he looked up at her and their 2691 02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:21,180 eyes met and then she realized that 2692 02:06:28,020 --> 02:06:25,570 everything you do at that point is like 2693 02:06:30,150 --> 02:06:28,030 a telepathic communication so if you're 2694 02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:30,160 thinking something about someone like 2695 02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:33,400 that they know what you're thinking so 2696 02:06:38,910 --> 02:06:35,440 then she was all embarrassed yeah I 2697 02:06:41,700 --> 02:06:38,920 don't want to be in that world no if you 2698 02:06:43,140 --> 02:06:41,710 know what I mean with if everybody could 2699 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:43,150 read everybody's thoughts 2700 02:06:50,370 --> 02:06:45,850 everybody had telepathy it would be 2701 02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:50,380 noisy oh it'd be it'd be well you take a 2702 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:52,450 while to just get used to such a thing 2703 02:06:57,930 --> 02:06:56,290 but but she had the same thing she she 2704 02:07:01,080 --> 02:06:57,940 called out to God and she said there was 2705 02:07:02,610 --> 02:07:01,090 this tiny little light that it's exactly 2706 02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:02,620 the way Howard described and I thought 2707 02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:04,570 the two of them had the very similar 2708 02:07:08,820 --> 02:07:06,370 experience and she heard this voice 2709 02:07:10,229 --> 02:07:08,830 saying is this what you want because she 2710 02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:10,239 wanted to die 2711 02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:13,840 and she had a discussion again she met 2712 02:07:18,209 --> 02:07:15,760 Jesus Christ and she had to this 2713 02:07:20,609 --> 02:07:18,219 discussion with him and she ended up 2714 02:07:23,459 --> 02:07:20,619 back in her body now what was really 2715 02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:23,469 strange at the time that we did howard's 2716 02:07:28,199 --> 02:07:26,650 video my wife and I were living on 2717 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:28,209 beechwood Avenue right under the 2718 02:07:30,959 --> 02:07:29,170 Hollywood sign 2719 02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:30,969 I lived on Beachwood underneath the 2720 02:07:35,609 --> 02:07:33,280 Hollywood sign did you I lived across 2721 02:07:38,219 --> 02:07:35,619 the street from the Ranch Market 2722 02:07:41,580 --> 02:07:38,229 oh yeah sure of course right there at 2723 02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:41,590 the the I guess you would call it you 2724 02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:45,550 know the the stone what is that it's 2725 02:07:49,290 --> 02:07:48,070 like agate you know that isn't it yeah 2726 02:07:51,449 --> 02:07:49,300 isn't that kind of close to the 2727 02:07:53,399 --> 02:07:51,459 Hollywood land give it says it says 2728 02:07:55,339 --> 02:07:53,409 Hollywood land on the top of it that 2729 02:07:58,589 --> 02:07:55,349 wasn't my yeah that was in my front yard 2730 02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:58,599 yeah there's like a horse pasture trail 2731 02:08:03,060 --> 02:08:00,880 a little past that where you can park 2732 02:08:04,469 --> 02:08:03,070 your car yeah I used to cross the street 2733 02:08:06,419 --> 02:08:04,479 right there and go to the Ranch Market 2734 02:08:09,479 --> 02:08:06,429 and have breakfast every day at the cafe 2735 02:08:10,679 --> 02:08:09,489 there anyway for anybody that's 2736 02:08:12,179 --> 02:08:10,689 listening right now if you're from 2737 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:12,189 Hollywood you know what we're talking 2738 02:08:18,779 --> 02:08:15,610 about everybody else they don't care 2739 02:08:20,910 --> 02:08:18,789 I just loved living up there it was no 2740 02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:20,920 it was cool it just got a little crazy 2741 02:08:26,429 --> 02:08:23,050 and I wanted to move away cause it got 2742 02:08:29,219 --> 02:08:26,439 so noisy and you know one night some guy 2743 02:08:31,020 --> 02:08:29,229 goes buzzing down Gower Avenue which was 2744 02:08:34,500 --> 02:08:31,030 right behind our apartment at the time 2745 02:08:36,989 --> 02:08:34,510 and and there was a shootout going on so 2746 02:08:39,239 --> 02:08:36,999 I was hearing this pop pop pop I'm going 2747 02:08:41,699 --> 02:08:39,249 this is getting a little too close for 2748 02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:41,709 comfort it's time to move to the valley 2749 02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:44,170 yeah so that's what we did but anyway 2750 02:08:49,739 --> 02:08:46,840 all that to say there was a girl who 2751 02:08:52,439 --> 02:08:49,749 lived on the end of the street and we 2752 02:08:56,729 --> 02:08:52,449 met in in the alley behind the place 2753 02:08:59,549 --> 02:08:56,739 where we park your cars and somehow the 2754 02:09:01,020 --> 02:08:59,559 topic got onto Watchers and I told her 2755 02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:01,030 what we were working on and she just 2756 02:09:06,179 --> 02:09:03,610 started screaming she goes oh incredible 2757 02:09:07,620 --> 02:09:06,189 I have to talk to you so the next day 2758 02:09:09,209 --> 02:09:07,630 she came back to me I found out that 2759 02:09:11,790 --> 02:09:09,219 she's a musician I'm not gonna member 2760 02:09:12,929 --> 02:09:11,800 but I'm not going to you know state her 2761 02:09:14,609 --> 02:09:12,939 name on the air or anything like that 2762 02:09:17,219 --> 02:09:14,619 cuz this is kind of personal part of 2763 02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:17,229 what she was saying but she had the same 2764 02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:20,170 thing that Angie Fenimore had she got 2765 02:09:24,150 --> 02:09:23,650 tired of her career she just wanted to 2766 02:09:25,830 --> 02:09:24,160 go 2767 02:09:27,930 --> 02:09:25,840 she she said she's home he said I just 2768 02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:27,940 wanted to go meet Jesus this is what she 2769 02:09:35,250 --> 02:09:31,090 said this is a she's a rock star pop 2770 02:09:37,980 --> 02:09:35,260 artist lived in Hollywood too two houses 2771 02:09:40,740 --> 02:09:37,990 down from where we lived and and she 2772 02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:40,750 went into the bathtub into warm water 2773 02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:43,530 took took some sleeping pills and 2774 02:09:50,250 --> 02:09:48,130 basically left her body and her her 2775 02:09:52,890 --> 02:09:50,260 boyfriend came over couldn't find her 2776 02:09:56,610 --> 02:09:52,900 couldn't get her on the phone gets into 2777 02:09:59,190 --> 02:09:56,620 the house finds her blue in the tub not 2778 02:10:01,290 --> 02:09:59,200 breathing and god I was so pissed off 2779 02:10:02,130 --> 02:10:01,300 that she had done this he picked her 2780 02:10:04,710 --> 02:10:02,140 body up 2781 02:10:07,620 --> 02:10:04,720 I mean basically it's her naked body 2782 02:10:11,190 --> 02:10:07,630 picked it up and threw it out onto the 2783 02:10:14,700 --> 02:10:11,200 into the front yard thinking she's dead 2784 02:10:19,590 --> 02:10:14,710 you know that's it and somehow they 2785 02:10:22,530 --> 02:10:19,600 called 9-1-1 and a revived her i mean i 2786 02:10:24,990 --> 02:10:22,540 don't know how it's possible but she she 2787 02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:25,000 said she went into this same place like 2788 02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:28,210 howard described and also angie Fenimore 2789 02:10:33,150 --> 02:10:30,250 described she ended up in this place 2790 02:10:35,370 --> 02:10:33,160 terrifying and she and a certain point 2791 02:10:38,730 --> 02:10:35,380 as she got deeper and deeper in into it 2792 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:38,740 she said she couldn't remember who to 2793 02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:39,970 ask for help 2794 02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:42,370 it's like those memories were 2795 02:10:46,380 --> 02:10:43,240 disappearing 2796 02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:46,390 they were eroding away in that respect 2797 02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:48,010 that was scary 2798 02:10:56,280 --> 02:10:51,690 what she told me but I said you have an 2799 02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:56,290 incredible this is more than coincidence 2800 02:11:00,560 --> 02:10:57,730 that you're telling me this because 2801 02:11:03,330 --> 02:11:00,570 we're interviewing Howard this week and 2802 02:11:06,930 --> 02:11:03,340 if you want I will introduce the two of 2803 02:11:08,730 --> 02:11:06,940 you so she hung out on that shoot that 2804 02:11:11,970 --> 02:11:08,740 we did with our storms she stayed the 2805 02:11:13,770 --> 02:11:11,980 entire day and they got to talk and he 2806 02:11:17,130 --> 02:11:13,780 was able to talk her through some things 2807 02:11:19,410 --> 02:11:17,140 it was it was really cool because I'd 2808 02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:19,420 only met this girl like a few days 2809 02:11:24,750 --> 02:11:21,850 before and now here she is meeting the 2810 02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:24,760 exact person that she needed to meet who 2811 02:11:30,450 --> 02:11:26,860 would understand her her story and know 2812 02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:30,460 she's not crazy so that kind of thing is 2813 02:11:35,550 --> 02:11:33,070 really interesting but dr. price who 2814 02:11:37,770 --> 02:11:35,560 wrote an article on dr. Long's website 2815 02:11:41,570 --> 02:11:37,780 dr. long is the guy who has 2816 02:11:45,420 --> 02:11:41,580 the near-death experience website 2817 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:45,430 basically has said that a lot of people 2818 02:11:52,140 --> 02:11:48,610 even after they die seem to get a second 2819 02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:52,150 chance that they're met by this being of 2820 02:11:58,290 --> 02:11:55,690 light they talk it over they you know 2821 02:12:00,330 --> 02:11:58,300 realize you know these people didn't 2822 02:12:02,370 --> 02:12:00,340 believe in the afterlife or they thought 2823 02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:02,380 that you just go into a dark hole in the 2824 02:12:06,060 --> 02:12:05,350 ground and that's it that that's not 2825 02:12:09,150 --> 02:12:06,070 true 2826 02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:09,160 and here's what it is and they're given 2827 02:12:15,870 --> 02:12:13,810 another chance to to live out their life 2828 02:12:17,820 --> 02:12:15,880 and boom they're back into their bodies 2829 02:12:19,950 --> 02:12:17,830 again when that happens now the only 2830 02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:19,960 thing that can happen is if you're blown 2831 02:12:24,930 --> 02:12:22,450 up or your body's burned to a crisp or 2832 02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:24,940 something like that then then you know 2833 02:12:28,980 --> 02:12:26,470 you're not going to come back into your 2834 02:12:32,510 --> 02:12:28,990 body and try to make things cool on the 2835 02:12:34,620 --> 02:12:32,520 earth you had your chance essentially so 2836 02:12:37,470 --> 02:12:34,630 but I do think that's really interesting 2837 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:37,480 and it kind of flies in the face of some 2838 02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:39,010 of the real hell fire and brimstone 2839 02:12:44,580 --> 02:12:41,650 messages so that I've heard since I was 2840 02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:44,590 a kid well what kind of information did 2841 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:46,450 Howard get when he started asking 2842 02:12:53,370 --> 02:12:48,850 questions what did you ask him about 2843 02:12:55,950 --> 02:12:53,380 that well I said you know well the one 2844 02:12:58,920 --> 02:12:55,960 thing was the UFO thing which I was 2845 02:13:01,800 --> 02:12:58,930 interested in what and he was saying 2846 02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:01,810 he's basically quoting what Jesus told 2847 02:13:06,810 --> 02:13:04,210 him I said okay what did Jesus tell you 2848 02:13:10,530 --> 02:13:06,820 about meeting aliens or something like 2849 02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:10,540 that and he said well he said the UFOs 2850 02:13:17,580 --> 02:13:12,970 are real but he said you shouldn't 2851 02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:17,590 probably try to interact with them you 2852 02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:19,960 know you should and we know that that's 2853 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:23,410 really true I mean there's there's good 2854 02:13:29,610 --> 02:13:26,770 and bad sides to that phenomena as you 2855 02:13:31,470 --> 02:13:29,620 as you well know those of us that have 2856 02:13:33,060 --> 02:13:31,480 traveled in these experiences and have 2857 02:13:36,590 --> 02:13:33,070 talked to people that have actually had 2858 02:13:39,690 --> 02:13:36,600 them know that there's some people have 2859 02:13:43,620 --> 02:13:39,700 reported good experiences but the vast 2860 02:13:46,740 --> 02:13:43,630 majority of them haven't so you know I 2861 02:13:48,660 --> 02:13:46,750 think that there's some things that will 2862 02:13:50,410 --> 02:13:48,670 be made clearer to us later that just 2863 02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:50,420 currently isn't 2864 02:13:57,700 --> 02:13:55,040 but then there's also the idea that the 2865 02:14:01,060 --> 02:13:57,710 the church seems to be really hung up on 2866 02:14:06,340 --> 02:14:01,070 on the gay lifestyle and all of that and 2867 02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:06,350 I was kind of grieved over that I guess 2868 02:14:11,290 --> 02:14:09,110 you know it's it's not that I'm trying 2869 02:14:14,770 --> 02:14:11,300 to promote one lifestyle over another 2870 02:14:18,729 --> 02:14:14,780 but I do believe that that Jesus loves 2871 02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:18,739 us and when I asked Howard about that he 2872 02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,210 agreed and he he when he started his 2873 02:14:27,220 --> 02:14:25,520 church he he brought gays into the 2874 02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:27,230 church and gave him jobs to do things 2875 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:29,570 that it normally wouldn't have happened 2876 02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:32,410 I think that's really that's really cool 2877 02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:37,370 and also dr. price in his report said 2878 02:14:43,300 --> 02:14:40,850 the same thing about people who saw 2879 02:14:46,540 --> 02:14:43,310 loved ones and all of this it there's 2880 02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:46,550 there's a lot more going on than our 2881 02:14:51,010 --> 02:14:48,770 little brains can comprehend at this 2882 02:14:55,870 --> 02:14:51,020 point and of course one thing that dr. 2883 02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:55,880 Wong said that was really incredible was 2884 02:15:00,580 --> 02:14:57,770 that this one guy said he was shown all 2885 02:15:02,380 --> 02:15:00,590 of this wisdom and understanding and you 2886 02:15:04,150 --> 02:15:02,390 for a while you you understand 2887 02:15:05,740 --> 02:15:04,160 everything you know it no one even has 2888 02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:05,750 you don't have to ask questions it's 2889 02:15:10,270 --> 02:15:08,000 just revealed to you how how this works 2890 02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:10,280 and how that works and time space 2891 02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:12,110 gravity I mean the whole deal is is 2892 02:15:16,750 --> 02:15:14,570 suddenly clear to you without having 2893 02:15:18,580 --> 02:15:16,760 someone to explain to you but when you 2894 02:15:21,430 --> 02:15:18,590 get back you don't remember any of it 2895 02:15:23,050 --> 02:15:21,440 and the guy told dr. Wong well of course 2896 02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:23,060 I can't remember it's like trying to put 2897 02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:27,410 an ocean of information into the thimble 2898 02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:31,250 that's my brain are you suggesting and 2899 02:15:36,250 --> 02:15:34,010 I've asked this question a million times 2900 02:15:40,919 --> 02:15:36,260 on the show so this isn't the first time 2901 02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:40,929 but are you suggesting that et is 2902 02:15:46,209 --> 02:15:42,130 religious 2903 02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:46,219 you know they look if God is universal 2904 02:15:49,630 --> 02:15:48,560 God God the biblical God right and 2905 02:15:53,979 --> 02:15:49,640 created everything 2906 02:15:57,610 --> 02:15:53,989 well that means on Zeta Reticuli right 2907 02:16:01,750 --> 02:15:57,620 there you know I've always wondered that 2908 02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:01,760 is et religious Richard well my answer 2909 02:16:05,980 --> 02:16:03,530 to that would be 2910 02:16:08,590 --> 02:16:05,990 we we don't know in enough detail to 2911 02:16:12,340 --> 02:16:08,600 give you a truthful answer but I really 2912 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:12,350 think that there is this idea that we're 2913 02:16:24,460 --> 02:16:16,970 dealing with possibly more than one kind 2914 02:16:26,980 --> 02:16:24,470 of ET entity and also that some may be 2915 02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:26,990 from other planets we don't know and 2916 02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:29,770 some may be from an interdimensional 2917 02:16:36,669 --> 02:16:33,410 contact and you know when you get back 2918 02:16:39,490 --> 02:16:36,679 into into biblical texts and you you try 2919 02:16:41,259 --> 02:16:39,500 to understand what these prophets were 2920 02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:41,269 trying to tell us and I and I always 2921 02:16:45,870 --> 02:16:43,730 tell people I said look we got to look 2922 02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:45,880 at this stuff with with fresh eyes 2923 02:16:51,490 --> 02:16:48,639 knowing what we know today and 2924 02:16:54,190 --> 02:16:51,500 understanding technology some of the 2925 02:16:57,220 --> 02:16:54,200 stuff that is is being described by 2926 02:16:59,860 --> 02:16:57,230 Ezekiel or by Abraham and the in the 2927 02:17:05,290 --> 02:16:59,870 book of Genesis or or you know the 2928 02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:05,300 experiences they had were being told to 2929 02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:10,330 us by prophets 2,500 to 3,000 years ago 2930 02:17:15,459 --> 02:17:12,800 and they didn't know how to describe it 2931 02:17:18,580 --> 02:17:15,469 I mean this is like like how would you 2932 02:17:20,799 --> 02:17:18,590 explain how HTML code works to someone 2933 02:17:23,410 --> 02:17:20,809 back then they'd have no idea first of 2934 02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:23,420 all what the internet was this is why I 2935 02:17:29,230 --> 02:17:25,250 think in some of those ancient texts 2936 02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:29,240 they say in in words that cannot be 2937 02:17:34,780 --> 02:17:31,969 uttered because they have no idea what 2938 02:17:36,250 --> 02:17:34,790 they mean it's not that you can't say 2939 02:17:38,620 --> 02:17:36,260 the words it's like they don't mean 2940 02:17:40,900 --> 02:17:38,630 anything to them you know what how would 2941 02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:40,910 I explain nuclear power or any of those 2942 02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:43,610 things to people of that kind but yet 2943 02:17:49,169 --> 02:17:45,650 they were getting visions of these 2944 02:17:51,970 --> 02:17:49,179 things and they met beings that had 2945 02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:51,980 unusual abilities this happened with 2946 02:17:56,890 --> 02:17:54,889 when lot and his family was rescued from 2947 02:18:00,610 --> 02:17:56,900 Sodom and Gomorrah this happened when 2948 02:18:05,890 --> 02:18:00,620 Peter was rescued out of prison and all 2949 02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:05,900 of this is is so similar to abduction 2950 02:18:12,759 --> 02:18:08,210 experiences that we that were told about 2951 02:18:15,400 --> 02:18:12,769 I mean so and LA and I argue about this 2952 02:18:16,859 --> 02:18:15,410 together all time I said look I can't 2953 02:18:21,219 --> 02:18:16,869 believe that all 2954 02:18:23,469 --> 02:18:21,229 aliens are evil because that upsets the 2955 02:18:25,479 --> 02:18:23,479 balance of the universe and plus if 2956 02:18:27,609 --> 02:18:25,489 there supposed to be a war going on in 2957 02:18:30,700 --> 02:18:27,619 heaven how can you have a war that's 2958 02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:30,710 only one-sided well the other aspect is 2959 02:18:37,330 --> 02:18:34,010 this and it's a very simple one 2960 02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:37,340 et interdimensional or not physical on 2961 02:18:41,979 --> 02:18:40,399 another planet or not if we go with the 2962 02:18:44,259 --> 02:18:41,989 biblical side of things they were 2963 02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:44,269 created by God no matter who they are 2964 02:18:51,399 --> 02:18:47,359 and so Michael exactly and my question 2965 02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:51,409 is a very simple one does that mean that 2966 02:18:58,030 --> 02:18:54,050 you know the little grey alien had a 2967 02:19:02,080 --> 02:18:58,040 little grey Jesus also died on the cross 2968 02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:02,090 for them did they go through this very 2969 02:19:12,129 --> 02:19:07,449 same things I that I would probably 2970 02:19:16,750 --> 02:19:12,139 question because as far if if we're 2971 02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:16,760 talking about I hate to use some of 2972 02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,800 these biblical terms because it it 2973 02:19:22,809 --> 02:19:20,719 doesn't really apply in my own 2974 02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:22,819 vernacular anymore because I think 2975 02:19:28,929 --> 02:19:25,519 people are suspect of it but basically 2976 02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:28,939 we're talking about fallen angels fallen 2977 02:19:34,899 --> 02:19:30,800 angels meaning that they were into a 2978 02:19:37,599 --> 02:19:34,909 their their realm at one point was they 2979 02:19:42,660 --> 02:19:37,609 were with God they were created beings 2980 02:19:45,099 --> 02:19:42,670 and some some people that I've talked to 2981 02:19:48,099 --> 02:19:45,109 believe that they might have been 2982 02:19:50,859 --> 02:19:48,109 cherubs at one at one point that there's 2983 02:19:53,410 --> 02:19:50,869 described as being small beings this 2984 02:19:57,250 --> 02:19:53,420 kind of thing but a lot of them became 2985 02:20:00,809 --> 02:19:57,260 really evil and did bad things but yet 2986 02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:00,819 yet these were created beings now we're 2987 02:20:07,059 --> 02:20:03,920 we're in a kind of a different bag than 2988 02:20:09,399 --> 02:20:07,069 they are we haven't been in a realms 2989 02:20:12,250 --> 02:20:09,409 that they've been in and lived in those 2990 02:20:14,260 --> 02:20:12,260 dimensions so we don't have that insight 2991 02:20:16,300 --> 02:20:14,270 this is why I think that when you go 2992 02:20:17,859 --> 02:20:16,310 back into the Book of Enoch and you read 2993 02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:17,869 that and you try to understand what 2994 02:20:23,139 --> 02:20:20,090 what's going on there that they don't 2995 02:20:25,059 --> 02:20:23,149 get forgiven for what they did we do but 2996 02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:25,069 they don't we're kind of in a separate 2997 02:20:33,580 --> 02:20:30,530 separate bag where according to 2998 02:20:37,001 --> 02:20:33,590 just basic Christianity we're we're 2999 02:20:41,620 --> 02:20:37,011 covered by what Jesus did on the cross 3000 02:20:43,660 --> 02:20:41,630 for us and and these guys already had 3001 02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:43,670 way more abilities than we do and they 3002 02:20:49,301 --> 02:20:46,490 have no excuse and they're not forgiven 3003 02:20:50,950 --> 02:20:49,311 that's why there's chained up against 3004 02:20:56,980 --> 02:20:50,960 the wall but what I think is really 3005 02:20:59,530 --> 02:20:56,990 interesting is that in Enoch when I was 3006 02:21:01,631 --> 02:20:59,540 a little kid and I read this one passage 3007 02:21:03,930 --> 02:21:01,641 in Genesis and it says an Enoch walked 3008 02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:03,940 with God and was not for God took him 3009 02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:08,210 I'm going what we're going to go how did 3010 02:21:13,001 --> 02:21:10,250 that happen and I was so curious about 3011 02:21:14,890 --> 02:21:13,011 it and in those days I didn't know there 3012 02:21:17,290 --> 02:21:14,900 was a book of Enoch that that wasn't 3013 02:21:20,350 --> 02:21:17,300 another ancient text that was never 3014 02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:20,360 given to us we didn't get it till you 3015 02:21:26,921 --> 02:21:23,710 know centuries later and it talks about 3016 02:21:29,171 --> 02:21:26,931 what he's in his bed and suddenly a 3017 02:21:30,370 --> 02:21:29,181 feeling of dread comes over him and he 3018 02:21:33,551 --> 02:21:30,380 doesn't know what it is 3019 02:21:37,780 --> 02:21:33,561 and then suddenly two glowing beings 3020 02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:37,790 appear in his by the head of his bed now 3021 02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:40,730 what what is really cool Jimmy about 3022 02:21:48,910 --> 02:21:43,450 this is that when when Ellie and I were 3023 02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:48,920 recording dr. David Jacobs who's like a 3024 02:21:56,921 --> 02:21:54,110 real authority on the whole Beatty 3025 02:21:59,890 --> 02:21:56,931 abduction experience right you know I 3026 02:22:02,171 --> 02:21:59,900 asked him I said do you in your 3027 02:22:06,551 --> 02:22:02,181 experience have you had people say is 3028 02:22:10,900 --> 02:22:06,561 there like a sphere of influence that 3029 02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:10,910 these beings have I mean how far does 3030 02:22:15,730 --> 02:22:14,000 this telepathy extend and it goes oh 3031 02:22:18,671 --> 02:22:15,740 what a great question no one's ever 3032 02:22:21,610 --> 02:22:18,681 asked me that I go okay great 3033 02:22:25,810 --> 02:22:21,620 and he said it apparently when people 3034 02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:25,820 are having this this visitation that 3035 02:22:32,020 --> 02:22:28,330 they'll be watching TV or something and 3036 02:22:34,091 --> 02:22:32,030 an alien is coming into the house and 3037 02:22:36,370 --> 02:22:34,101 they're entering like another place of 3038 02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:36,380 the building and it starts affecting 3039 02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:40,250 them either their mind right they start 3040 02:22:43,820 --> 02:22:42,080 getting sleepy or they start kind of 3041 02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:43,830 drifting off or 3042 02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,840 until as they get really close and 3043 02:22:49,100 --> 02:22:47,280 they're almost in the same room they are 3044 02:22:51,610 --> 02:22:49,110 they might notice them and the next 3045 02:22:54,980 --> 02:22:51,620 thing they know they're unconscious now 3046 02:22:56,990 --> 02:22:54,990 this is exactly what's described in in 3047 02:22:59,720 --> 02:22:57,000 the Book of Enoch he wasn't made to go 3048 02:23:01,820 --> 02:22:59,730 unconscious but he had this feeling of 3049 02:23:04,130 --> 02:23:01,830 dread come over him because he was his 3050 02:23:06,500 --> 02:23:04,140 brain was being tapped into by a force 3051 02:23:08,511 --> 02:23:06,510 he had never experienced before and he 3052 02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:08,521 didn't know how to handle it and that's 3053 02:23:12,801 --> 02:23:11,430 what happens to us when these ETS come 3054 02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:12,811 in and this is what happened with 3055 02:23:19,250 --> 02:23:16,250 Captain Roberts solace and his wife I 3056 02:23:21,230 --> 02:23:19,260 talked to her I said did you see this 3057 02:23:22,130 --> 02:23:21,240 happened and and she was knocked 3058 02:23:25,940 --> 02:23:22,140 unconscious 3059 02:23:28,250 --> 02:23:25,950 when captain solace was abducted been in 3060 02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:28,260 his house in Manhattan Beach California 3061 02:23:36,140 --> 02:23:32,160 back in the 80s and I this was the first 3062 02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:36,150 time I'd ever talked to a couple that 3063 02:23:41,630 --> 02:23:39,420 had both experienced it and could both 3064 02:23:43,880 --> 02:23:41,640 give me details I thought that was 3065 02:23:45,740 --> 02:23:43,890 really fascinating and then the next 3066 02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:45,750 thing he says he's being floated out 3067 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:48,210 through a window and that we find out 3068 02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:50,010 that that's how everybody gets out of 3069 02:23:56,420 --> 02:23:52,050 their house they pass right through the 3070 02:23:58,460 --> 02:23:56,430 wall so there is this thought and I know 3071 02:24:00,470 --> 02:23:58,470 like chuck Missler has said this that 3072 02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:00,480 that we could be living in a digital 3073 02:24:06,350 --> 02:24:03,650 simulation that none of this is real and 3074 02:24:09,380 --> 02:24:06,360 until we're out of this existence that 3075 02:24:13,730 --> 02:24:09,390 we're currently in we won't really 3076 02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:13,740 discover reality well that's the two 3077 02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:16,730 that's the two big questions the two 3078 02:24:22,700 --> 02:24:20,330 fundamental questions that we've all had 3079 02:24:26,090 --> 02:24:22,710 everybody on this planet that has live 3080 02:24:28,700 --> 02:24:26,100 is living now or is dead going back to 3081 02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:28,710 the beginning is one what happens when 3082 02:24:33,890 --> 02:24:31,650 we die and two are we alone in the 3083 02:24:36,051 --> 02:24:33,900 universe that's that's the two that's 3084 02:24:40,730 --> 02:24:36,061 the that's the to fund that's what 3085 02:24:42,530 --> 02:24:40,740 drives us yeah but now that we've that 3086 02:24:45,140 --> 02:24:42,540 we've been able to bring people back 3087 02:24:46,970 --> 02:24:45,150 from the dead through electronics and 3088 02:24:49,310 --> 02:24:46,980 restarting their heart and giving them 3089 02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:49,320 drugs and and getting them back into 3090 02:24:53,301 --> 02:24:51,210 their body we can actually hear what 3091 02:24:56,331 --> 02:24:53,311 these people's experiences were and 3092 02:24:58,220 --> 02:24:56,341 they're shockingly similar 3093 02:25:00,531 --> 02:24:58,230 first of all when someone dies they're 3094 02:25:03,321 --> 02:25:00,541 there the pop out of their body they 3095 02:25:07,041 --> 02:25:03,331 they're usually like floating over their 3096 02:25:09,561 --> 02:25:07,051 body the the look down and they can see 3097 02:25:11,661 --> 02:25:09,571 that they're not affected by gravity any 3098 02:25:14,390 --> 02:25:11,671 longer they can see themselves laying in 3099 02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:14,400 bed and then they they have a thought I 3100 02:25:18,981 --> 02:25:16,650 wonder how my kids are doing or whatever 3101 02:25:21,381 --> 02:25:18,991 that that they're concerned about and 3102 02:25:22,371 --> 02:25:21,391 and that thought they they're 3103 02:25:25,041 --> 02:25:22,381 immediately 3104 02:25:27,321 --> 02:25:25,051 they've taken flight and they're headed 3105 02:25:28,911 --> 02:25:27,331 to that to their house and they can see 3106 02:25:30,171 --> 02:25:28,921 through the roof they can see how their 3107 02:25:32,841 --> 02:25:30,181 kids are doing and all of these 3108 02:25:35,661 --> 02:25:32,851 different things other people say that 3109 02:25:37,911 --> 02:25:35,671 they they shot up in into the air at a 3110 02:25:40,011 --> 02:25:37,921 45 degree angle at tremendous speed and 3111 02:25:42,411 --> 02:25:40,021 we're out in space flying around the 3112 02:25:44,361 --> 02:25:42,421 Earth's is like disappearing behind them 3113 02:25:47,361 --> 02:25:44,371 all of a sudden they have this ability 3114 02:25:50,751 --> 02:25:47,371 other people say that they go through a 3115 02:25:52,881 --> 02:25:50,761 tunnel that and and little children have 3116 02:25:54,561 --> 02:25:52,891 had this this thing and actually come 3117 02:25:57,261 --> 02:25:54,571 back describe me all it had colored 3118 02:25:59,151 --> 02:25:57,271 bricks inside they say I don't know if 3119 02:26:01,731 --> 02:25:59,161 it's a wormhole that we go through I 3120 02:26:04,761 --> 02:26:01,741 don't know I mean it sounds like it but 3121 02:26:07,191 --> 02:26:04,771 they're drawn usually are drawn to a 3122 02:26:08,751 --> 02:26:07,201 light in the distance they see this 3123 02:26:11,991 --> 02:26:08,761 light they know they got to get there 3124 02:26:15,561 --> 02:26:12,001 the light is emanating with some kind of 3125 02:26:18,081 --> 02:26:15,571 divine love some kind of power that 3126 02:26:21,171 --> 02:26:18,091 pulls us into that light and then once 3127 02:26:23,001 --> 02:26:21,181 you're there that's where you have your 3128 02:26:26,390 --> 02:26:23,011 life review and there's usually a couple 3129 02:26:27,411 --> 02:26:26,400 other angelic type beings I'll call them 3130 02:26:30,591 --> 02:26:27,421 that because I don't know what else to 3131 02:26:33,321 --> 02:26:30,601 use to describe them and they come they 3132 02:26:36,831 --> 02:26:33,331 put their arms around you and all of the 3133 02:26:38,811 --> 02:26:36,841 this knowledge and memories come pouring 3134 02:26:41,091 --> 02:26:38,821 out everything that ever happened to you 3135 02:26:44,241 --> 02:26:41,101 since you were born to the point where 3136 02:26:46,311 --> 02:26:44,251 you died and you see it just in a brief 3137 02:26:49,821 --> 02:26:46,321 instant of time the whole thing but yet 3138 02:26:51,591 --> 02:26:49,831 you reinstall life like in a super fast 3139 02:26:54,201 --> 02:26:51,601 forward kind of state and you remember 3140 02:26:56,061 --> 02:26:54,211 what happened and like I was saying 3141 02:26:58,751 --> 02:26:56,071 earlier if you were bad to someone you 3142 02:27:01,100 --> 02:26:58,761 experienced what they felt you you 3143 02:27:02,991 --> 02:27:01,110 basically had this experience and you 3144 02:27:06,501 --> 02:27:03,001 you're you've learned from it you've 3145 02:27:07,801 --> 02:27:06,511 been to the school of life and and now 3146 02:27:11,220 --> 02:27:07,811 you're there 3147 02:27:13,140 --> 02:27:11,230 and then there's a barrier there's 3148 02:27:15,690 --> 02:27:13,150 something that you have to cross it 3149 02:27:17,310 --> 02:27:15,700 some people say it's a fence some people 3150 02:27:19,020 --> 02:27:17,320 say it's but they know that if they go 3151 02:27:21,301 --> 02:27:19,030 through that they'll never be able to 3152 02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:21,311 come back and some of them are worried 3153 02:27:26,131 --> 02:27:23,110 well I have children that I need to take 3154 02:27:28,261 --> 02:27:26,141 care of or my wife really needs me or I 3155 02:27:31,470 --> 02:27:28,271 need to be able to provide income for my 3156 02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:31,480 family and so they're a you know if if 3157 02:27:35,790 --> 02:27:33,040 it works out they're allowed to come 3158 02:27:37,980 --> 02:27:35,800 back and all of a sudden they're slammed 3159 02:27:42,440 --> 02:27:37,990 back into their body rather rudely again 3160 02:27:46,410 --> 02:27:42,450 and allowed to live and sometimes the 3161 02:27:49,350 --> 02:27:46,420 whatever caused them to die is is taken 3162 02:27:52,921 --> 02:27:49,360 care of and a lot of these people are 3163 02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:52,931 miraculously healed look Stan get a 3164 02:27:56,850 --> 02:27:54,790 second chance let's take a break right 3165 02:27:59,400 --> 02:27:56,860 here I want to I've got to get you to 3166 02:28:00,720 --> 02:27:59,410 hang on Richard and do a little overtime 3167 02:28:03,930 --> 02:28:00,730 I'm not ready to end this conversation 3168 02:28:05,610 --> 02:28:03,940 jail yeah so yeah let's take a break 3169 02:28:06,780 --> 02:28:05,620 right here our guest tonight Richard 3170 02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:06,790 Shaw we're gonna do some overtime 3171 02:28:12,961 --> 02:28:09,610 everybody so just relax and we'll pick 3172 02:28:14,370 --> 02:28:12,971 up on the back side but we need to we 3173 02:28:16,980 --> 02:28:14,380 need to ask those questions about 3174 02:28:19,711 --> 02:28:16,990 reincarnation that's that's another 3175 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few years 3231 02:31:19,469 --> 02:31:17,260 younger you know your hair was thicker 3232 02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:19,479 you didn't have so many wrinkles that 3233 02:31:23,939 --> 02:31:21,550 extra weight wasn't haunting you and you 3234 02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:23,949 just felt better well we can't turn back 3235 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:25,930 the clocks and go back 10 or 15 years 3236 02:31:31,319 --> 02:31:28,930 but you can start feeling and looking 10 3237 02:31:33,990 --> 02:31:31,329 or 15 years younger with nature's youth 3238 02:31:35,519 --> 02:31:34,000 RSF it's a doctor formulated daily 3239 02:31:37,710 --> 02:31:35,529 supplement that helps your body maintain 3240 02:31:40,530 --> 02:31:37,720 its peak performance and fight the aging 3241 02:31:42,030 --> 02:31:40,540 process imagine sleeping better looking 3242 02:31:44,609 --> 02:31:42,040 better and feeling better 3243 02:31:46,590 --> 02:31:44,619 see how Nature's youth RSF has helped 3244 02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:46,600 thousands of people just like you at 3245 02:31:51,719 --> 02:31:49,300 nature's youth calm nature's youth calm 3246 02:31:53,160 --> 02:31:51,729 the holidays are coming imagine how it 3247 02:31:55,050 --> 02:31:53,170 will feel when your family and friends 3248 02:31:57,420 --> 02:31:55,060 are asking you what you did to look so 3249 02:31:59,729 --> 02:31:57,430 good your secret will be nature's youth 3250 02:32:02,189 --> 02:31:59,739 RSF it's time to start looking better 3251 02:32:04,260 --> 02:32:02,199 and feeling better learn more in order 3252 02:32:14,560 --> 02:32:04,270 your nature's use RSS at nature's youth 3253 02:32:29,091 --> 02:32:18,261 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3254 02:32:33,860 --> 02:32:29,101 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3255 02:32:33,870 --> 02:32:46,300 [Music] 3256 02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:49,040 all right doing a little overtime with 3257 02:32:55,070 --> 02:32:53,370 Richard sha talking and E's a real 3258 02:32:57,080 --> 02:32:55,080 shimmy Church and this segment of pay 3259 02:33:00,590 --> 02:32:57,090 the black is proudly brought to you by 3260 02:33:02,510 --> 02:33:00,600 baring optics it's the night vision that 3261 02:33:04,940 --> 02:33:02,520 we both use an approve of right here 3262 02:33:07,370 --> 02:33:04,950 fade to black so go over click on the 3263 02:33:09,950 --> 02:33:07,380 banners over to me trips radio calm get 3264 02:33:10,610 --> 02:33:09,960 over to baring optics and call Alec 3265 02:33:13,310 --> 02:33:10,620 Hoffman 3266 02:33:15,830 --> 02:33:13,320 he's a fade or not and get yourself some 3267 02:33:18,500 --> 02:33:15,840 night vision because when you do you'll 3268 02:33:21,890 --> 02:33:18,510 be able to go and see your very own 3269 02:33:25,730 --> 02:33:21,900 green chrome balls that's right Richard 3270 02:33:29,420 --> 02:33:25,740 I said that live on the air because he 3271 02:33:31,340 --> 02:33:29,430 you're very green it's an honor to be 3272 02:33:34,910 --> 02:33:31,350 able to go in overtime with you yeah 3273 02:33:38,350 --> 02:33:34,920 thank you for that now this is and I 3274 02:33:40,850 --> 02:33:38,360 seriously mean that but when it comes to 3275 02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:40,860 reincarnation now we're starting to 3276 02:33:47,570 --> 02:33:45,210 conflict with some religion out there 3277 02:33:50,690 --> 02:33:47,580 there are others out there that say 3278 02:33:52,400 --> 02:33:50,700 reincarnation is exactly what we do but 3279 02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:52,410 how does that get involved with the 3280 02:33:56,890 --> 02:33:53,760 near-death experience 3281 02:33:59,960 --> 02:33:56,900 and what is really going on there I 3282 02:34:03,410 --> 02:33:59,970 asked Howard about that because you know 3283 02:34:05,150 --> 02:34:03,420 as you probably know some of my Jewish 3284 02:34:06,950 --> 02:34:05,160 rabbi friends that I've come to know 3285 02:34:10,070 --> 02:34:06,960 because of the Torah code project that I 3286 02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:10,080 had done really believe in that they 3287 02:34:14,719 --> 02:34:11,520 really think that we've been 3288 02:34:16,070 --> 02:34:14,729 reincarnated in fact they believe that 3289 02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:16,080 the whole idea of being born-again 3290 02:34:21,710 --> 02:34:19,680 that's what Yeshua was talking about was 3291 02:34:25,550 --> 02:34:21,720 being reincarnated I mean I'm just 3292 02:34:27,790 --> 02:34:25,560 saying I'm not trying to to promote any 3293 02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:27,800 sort of religion or you know 3294 02:34:34,429 --> 02:34:32,250 Christianity or Judea ideas I'm just 3295 02:34:37,700 --> 02:34:34,439 telling you what my experiences have 3296 02:34:40,070 --> 02:34:37,710 been and they said that the whole idea 3297 02:34:45,380 --> 02:34:40,080 of reincarnation started with Abraham 3298 02:34:47,540 --> 02:34:45,390 and basically his concubines took that 3299 02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:47,550 information and went east with it and 3300 02:34:53,410 --> 02:34:50,570 ended up where we have India today and 3301 02:34:56,511 --> 02:34:53,420 at that point the idea of reincarnation 3302 02:34:58,701 --> 02:34:56,521 went a little 3303 02:35:00,650 --> 02:34:58,711 in two extremes I mean it went into like 3304 02:35:02,541 --> 02:35:00,660 you know animals and everything else and 3305 02:35:05,810 --> 02:35:02,551 and I don't believe that's the case at 3306 02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:05,820 all but there had there are a very 3307 02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:08,690 number of instances where people and 3308 02:35:14,780 --> 02:35:12,240 even children seem to know things about 3309 02:35:18,110 --> 02:35:14,790 other people that how could they know 3310 02:35:21,411 --> 02:35:18,120 these things to me it's very intriguing 3311 02:35:25,011 --> 02:35:21,421 I don't have an answer for it there's no 3312 02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:25,021 way that you can prove it personally 3313 02:35:30,741 --> 02:35:28,110 would not really be all that interested 3314 02:35:34,991 --> 02:35:30,751 in being reincarnated again to go 3315 02:35:38,211 --> 02:35:35,001 through this again but I suppose if 3316 02:35:41,871 --> 02:35:38,221 Jesus asked me to do it I'd do it and 3317 02:35:47,091 --> 02:35:41,881 what did Howard say about it he didn't I 3318 02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:47,101 said so is it any did you get this an 3319 02:35:54,560 --> 02:35:50,490 idea that we've been there before being 3320 02:35:58,100 --> 02:35:54,570 heaven before that we came from there 3321 02:36:00,081 --> 02:35:58,110 and now we're here and he said no he 3322 02:36:02,631 --> 02:36:00,091 said he didn't get that indication that 3323 02:36:05,991 --> 02:36:02,641 he said this was kind of the first for 3324 02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:06,001 us to be here so he doesn't he doesn't 3325 02:36:12,291 --> 02:36:10,530 believe in it I'm I'm still the jury's 3326 02:36:14,991 --> 02:36:12,301 out a little bit for me I don't want to 3327 02:36:16,461 --> 02:36:15,001 say one way or the other because if I 3328 02:36:21,381 --> 02:36:16,471 don't know something for absolutely 3329 02:36:24,860 --> 02:36:21,391 certain I'd rather not act as if I know 3330 02:36:26,690 --> 02:36:24,870 everything right well you know what do 3331 02:36:32,511 --> 02:36:26,700 we do with somebody like Richard Dawkins 3332 02:36:34,430 --> 02:36:32,521 you know a staunch atheist reported 3333 02:36:35,930 --> 02:36:34,440 scientist that's what he says but he 3334 02:36:38,961 --> 02:36:35,940 hasn't done anything in a laboratory in 3335 02:36:41,541 --> 02:36:38,971 about 50 years but that being said wait 3336 02:36:43,491 --> 02:36:41,551 no I kind of feel yeah well a bit of 3337 02:36:45,621 --> 02:36:43,501 pity for him I really do because he's 3338 02:36:48,291 --> 02:36:45,631 missing out and and I also think like 3339 02:36:50,421 --> 02:36:48,301 you know who is another guy who I think 3340 02:36:54,110 --> 02:36:50,431 is just just frigging amazingly 3341 02:36:58,100 --> 02:36:54,120 brilliant and as too wrapped up in 3342 02:37:00,081 --> 02:36:58,110 trying to improve the human our fleshly 3343 02:37:02,810 --> 02:37:00,091 bodies and and that's Ray Kurzweil 3344 02:37:05,871 --> 02:37:02,820 mm-hmm sure you know he's trying to do 3345 02:37:08,511 --> 02:37:05,881 stuff with nanotechnology and I can 3346 02:37:10,420 --> 02:37:08,521 understand that but but sometimes I feel 3347 02:37:14,320 --> 02:37:10,430 like saying you know we're 3348 02:37:18,910 --> 02:37:14,330 a you're concentrating on an aspect that 3349 02:37:21,700 --> 02:37:18,920 you if you really could see past this 3350 02:37:24,849 --> 02:37:21,710 life you wouldn't want to be doing it 3351 02:37:27,309 --> 02:37:24,859 well does it matter well look there 3352 02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:27,319 there's an important question here 3353 02:37:38,679 --> 02:37:32,810 whether you believe in God or not or or 3354 02:37:41,019 --> 02:37:38,689 any of that if immortality is possible 3355 02:37:44,559 --> 02:37:41,029 it's right around the corner Richard if 3356 02:37:47,740 --> 02:37:44,569 you if you are able to get on to a 3357 02:37:51,939 --> 02:37:47,750 neural interface and download your brain 3358 02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:51,949 onto a chip and exist in that binary 3359 02:37:57,880 --> 02:37:56,000 world right on a chip on a USB Drive and 3360 02:38:03,599 --> 02:37:57,890 you are able to exist there the 3361 02:38:07,389 --> 02:38:03,609 questions of your bad or good life are 3362 02:38:09,219 --> 02:38:07,399 erased right that that's it you have no 3363 02:38:12,670 --> 02:38:09,229 concerns now you don't even have to 3364 02:38:15,639 --> 02:38:12,680 worry about a morals or character 3365 02:38:16,179 --> 02:38:15,649 because you are now going to live 3366 02:38:18,519 --> 02:38:16,189 forever 3367 02:38:21,639 --> 02:38:18,529 reincarnation is taken off the table 3368 02:38:24,610 --> 02:38:21,649 yeah there's kind of like the Captain 3369 02:38:26,790 --> 02:38:24,620 America Hydra guy that was ever we put 3370 02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:26,800 his whole brain into the computer and 3371 02:38:32,349 --> 02:38:30,290 lived that way he was like an evil force 3372 02:38:34,540 --> 02:38:32,359 that wanted to stay alive and so he put 3373 02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:34,550 his his consciousness into a computer 3374 02:38:39,070 --> 02:38:37,010 there's lots of movies out about that 3375 02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:39,080 same that same kind of thing yeah the 3376 02:38:44,710 --> 02:38:41,359 movie Tron yeah right yeah Tron's 3377 02:38:48,160 --> 02:38:44,720 another good one sure so what would you 3378 02:38:51,639 --> 02:38:48,170 do about that I mean now you I mean and 3379 02:38:56,590 --> 02:38:51,649 and how we're gonna cross this line 3380 02:38:59,139 --> 02:38:56,600 right and let's say that there is the 3381 02:39:03,340 --> 02:38:59,149 God that is in the Bible he exists how 3382 02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:03,350 is he going to deal with that with Souls 3383 02:39:10,090 --> 02:39:07,520 and consciousness existing on a computer 3384 02:39:12,820 --> 02:39:10,100 chip where you're not going to die I 3385 02:39:14,679 --> 02:39:12,830 don't think that he'll allow to go on 3386 02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:14,689 very long I think there'll be some 3387 02:39:20,500 --> 02:39:17,330 something that happens and everybody 3388 02:39:23,380 --> 02:39:20,510 kind of feels like we're we're entering 3389 02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:23,390 into a new irid doesn't that seem to be 3390 02:39:26,710 --> 02:39:24,170 a problem 3391 02:39:28,450 --> 02:39:26,720 feeling that everybody has like there's 3392 02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:28,460 stuff that's happening right now that 3393 02:39:35,320 --> 02:39:30,130 we've never seen before 3394 02:39:39,300 --> 02:39:35,330 you know there's AI and stuff that is 3395 02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:39,310 getting so complicated and intelligent 3396 02:39:45,450 --> 02:39:41,840 like there was that that article that 3397 02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:45,460 came out on TED talk just last month 3398 02:39:51,250 --> 02:39:48,770 about these tiny little drones that 3399 02:39:53,890 --> 02:39:51,260 would have facial recognition software 3400 02:39:56,440 --> 02:39:53,900 and they're I'm sure you saw this as I 3401 02:39:56,710 --> 02:39:56,450 read it it was it went viral yes I read 3402 02:40:00,340 --> 02:39:56,720 it 3403 02:40:02,650 --> 02:40:00,350 the palm of your hand and and you could 3404 02:40:04,540 --> 02:40:02,660 basically tell them to attack the person 3405 02:40:06,790 --> 02:40:04,550 that that you've given them the facial 3406 02:40:09,219 --> 02:40:06,800 information on and it has like three 3407 02:40:10,630 --> 02:40:09,229 grams of plastic explosive inside and it 3408 02:40:13,150 --> 02:40:10,640 basically hits the guy in the forehead 3409 02:40:16,420 --> 02:40:13,160 and blows his brains out selectively war 3410 02:40:19,870 --> 02:40:16,430 and they show another shot with a you 3411 02:40:21,940 --> 02:40:19,880 know a c-130 dumping hundreds of these 3412 02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:21,950 drones out over a war zones and just 3413 02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:23,600 going right after the bad guys not 3414 02:40:27,340 --> 02:40:25,370 killing anybody but the bad guys but 3415 02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:27,350 then all of a sudden then there's the 3416 02:40:31,630 --> 02:40:29,600 idea well how would we know that the 3417 02:40:35,020 --> 02:40:31,640 government wouldn't want to turn that on 3418 02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:35,030 its own citizens you know it's it's and 3419 02:40:40,390 --> 02:40:36,850 when stuff like that starts happening 3420 02:40:43,330 --> 02:40:40,400 that's a paradigm shift we've never had 3421 02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:43,340 that kind of technology before and we're 3422 02:40:47,770 --> 02:40:45,920 right at the threshold of all of those 3423 02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:47,780 things happening and something's 3424 02:40:53,950 --> 02:40:50,930 something massive has to take place now 3425 02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:53,960 I'm wondering if let's let's go back 3426 02:40:59,920 --> 02:40:57,200 into this artificial reality right you 3427 02:41:02,740 --> 02:40:59,930 and I are there we download ourselves or 3428 02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:02,750 upload we upload ourselves and you and I 3429 02:41:07,440 --> 02:41:04,640 are walking around on the chip together 3430 02:41:13,290 --> 02:41:07,450 right we're living the movie Tron right 3431 02:41:16,480 --> 02:41:13,300 yeah and then we get attacked by a gang 3432 02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:16,490 right a gang that is lower in the chip 3433 02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:19,850 or a computer virus no no again again 3434 02:41:28,360 --> 02:41:23,770 some more you know some and and we die 3435 02:41:31,450 --> 02:41:28,370 we die on the chip our consciousness is 3436 02:41:35,260 --> 02:41:31,460 on this chip but we are killed in this 3437 02:41:39,390 --> 02:41:35,270 artificial reality what happens what 3438 02:41:41,831 --> 02:41:39,400 happens to that soul Ray Kurzweil 3439 02:41:44,051 --> 02:41:41,841 well that's a great question and I don't 3440 02:41:47,350 --> 02:41:44,061 have an answer for you but I think that 3441 02:41:51,881 --> 02:41:47,360 it gets to a point where if if we're if 3442 02:41:54,341 --> 02:41:51,891 we're disregarding the Almighty in our 3443 02:41:57,791 --> 02:41:54,351 own lives to the extent where we think 3444 02:42:01,121 --> 02:41:57,801 we can handle it to reap reposition our 3445 02:42:03,911 --> 02:42:01,131 own souls into a computer chip then you 3446 02:42:06,400 --> 02:42:03,921 know we're not putting ourselves in in 3447 02:42:09,761 --> 02:42:06,410 his loving care and I think that's one 3448 02:42:11,831 --> 02:42:09,771 thing that that has been really 3449 02:42:13,421 --> 02:42:11,841 emphasized to me by everybody I've 3450 02:42:16,661 --> 02:42:13,431 talked to that's had this experience 3451 02:42:21,400 --> 02:42:16,671 whether whether you know originally bad 3452 02:42:24,820 --> 02:42:21,410 and then changes to good is the the the 3453 02:42:27,430 --> 02:42:24,830 amount of love that we feel in the 3454 02:42:29,560 --> 02:42:27,440 afterlife is beyond anything that we've 3455 02:42:32,890 --> 02:42:29,570 ever experienced before in fact Howard 3456 02:42:35,411 --> 02:42:32,900 said that if I would take my mother's 3457 02:42:38,081 --> 02:42:35,421 love and multiply that by a hundred it 3458 02:42:42,011 --> 02:42:38,091 might start approaching a little bit of 3459 02:42:45,100 --> 02:42:42,021 the love I felt when I was in heaven so 3460 02:42:47,770 --> 02:42:45,110 to put my brain into a computer chip 3461 02:42:51,161 --> 02:42:47,780 means all I'm doing is extending the 3462 02:42:54,251 --> 02:42:51,171 agony of not being in that surrounding 3463 02:42:57,940 --> 02:42:54,261 area of love but how else would we 3464 02:43:00,220 --> 02:42:57,950 travel to the Stars right so we can't 3465 02:43:02,951 --> 02:43:00,230 travel to the stars with our existing 3466 02:43:05,411 --> 02:43:02,961 meat sacks can't do it we're gonna die 3467 02:43:07,720 --> 02:43:05,421 and we need to go ten thousand years in 3468 02:43:11,341 --> 02:43:07,730 one direction right well yes something 3469 02:43:13,871 --> 02:43:11,351 has to happen to our physical bodies so 3470 02:43:14,770 --> 02:43:13,881 have you seen the movie passenger oh 3471 02:43:18,491 --> 02:43:14,780 absolutely 3472 02:43:20,531 --> 02:43:18,501 that was a terrific film and it was a it 3473 02:43:23,020 --> 02:43:20,541 was a pretty good ending too as well as 3474 02:43:25,541 --> 02:43:23,030 melancholy as it was it was a pretty 3475 02:43:27,671 --> 02:43:25,551 good ending and what would happen to the 3476 02:43:30,520 --> 02:43:27,681 ship the ship itself physically but not 3477 02:43:32,680 --> 02:43:30,530 let's let's go back to this this is 3478 02:43:35,921 --> 02:43:32,690 what's really weird now let's say that 3479 02:43:39,581 --> 02:43:35,931 you and I go and we get mugged in the 3480 02:43:43,470 --> 02:43:39,591 dark alley of a computer chip right and 3481 02:43:46,411 --> 02:43:43,480 we die and those that are running the 3482 02:43:48,761 --> 02:43:46,421 simulation or running that world 3483 02:43:50,190 --> 02:43:48,771 physically on the outside go oh okay 3484 02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:50,200 rickshaw just 3485 02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:53,920 died so let's reload him again because 3486 02:43:57,690 --> 02:43:56,110 they've got you on a USB Drive right 3487 02:44:02,011 --> 02:43:57,700 they've got your consciousness right 3488 02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:02,021 there so then you you you're not dead 3489 02:44:09,060 --> 02:44:05,170 your conten you're actually over here so 3490 02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:09,070 they they upload you again and you and I 3491 02:44:14,970 --> 02:44:11,410 are it can go back to that alley but 3492 02:44:16,830 --> 02:44:14,980 this time we're armed or whatever oh it 3493 02:44:19,620 --> 02:44:16,840 sounds like a it sounds like the makings 3494 02:44:21,750 --> 02:44:19,630 of a great movie right and and but now 3495 02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:21,760 we avoid the alley and then we take a 3496 02:44:29,210 --> 02:44:25,840 left you know and and I'm just saying 3497 02:44:33,270 --> 02:44:29,220 it's a bizarre concept that would that 3498 02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:33,280 Kurzweil and DARPA and Sandia National 3499 02:44:39,560 --> 02:44:36,160 Labs all of them are working and and so 3500 02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:39,570 is Elon Musk and I'm sure Bill Gates and 3501 02:44:46,200 --> 02:44:42,720 Google are all working on the software 3502 02:44:48,270 --> 02:44:46,210 to get that interface going between us 3503 02:44:49,650 --> 02:44:48,280 and a hard drive well yeah and I was 3504 02:44:51,570 --> 02:44:49,660 just gonna say it 3505 02:44:54,180 --> 02:44:51,580 your idea is very much like the movie 3506 02:44:56,190 --> 02:44:54,190 live die repeat with Tom Cruise right 3507 02:44:58,261 --> 02:44:56,200 right all right all right and you know 3508 02:45:01,080 --> 02:44:58,271 where they could go back and and retry 3509 02:45:04,020 --> 02:45:01,090 their you know redo their steps that 3510 02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:04,030 kind of thing there's there's also a 3511 02:45:10,770 --> 02:45:07,330 book that came out two or three years 3512 02:45:14,370 --> 02:45:10,780 ago it's called in league with a UFO you 3513 02:45:16,650 --> 02:45:14,380 ever heard of that no I haven't and the 3514 02:45:19,860 --> 02:45:16,660 guy that wrote it was is a little 3515 02:45:22,051 --> 02:45:19,870 paranoid we wanted to interview him for 3516 02:45:24,780 --> 02:45:22,061 Watchers and we could never get him to 3517 02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:24,790 agree to do it but basically he's 3518 02:45:29,820 --> 02:45:27,610 talking about what happened to the 3519 02:45:31,620 --> 02:45:29,830 Roswell craft and and where they took it 3520 02:45:33,750 --> 02:45:31,630 and the experiments that they ran on it 3521 02:45:36,270 --> 02:45:33,760 and they discovered there was there was 3522 02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:36,280 equipment on board the ship that would 3523 02:45:43,740 --> 02:45:40,570 allow them to transmute someone's soul 3524 02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:43,750 to a different body this is the closest 3525 02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:45,370 thing to trying to describe something 3526 02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:48,490 that you're asking me now about except 3527 02:45:53,220 --> 02:45:50,410 to the fact that if we're all living in 3528 02:45:55,740 --> 02:45:53,230 a digital Seminole simulation like you 3529 02:45:59,040 --> 02:45:55,750 know that has been presented as one 3530 02:46:02,160 --> 02:45:59,050 possibility of life today that would be 3531 02:46:03,630 --> 02:46:02,170 something else but but they had stuff 3532 02:46:06,840 --> 02:46:03,640 aboard that craft 3533 02:46:08,460 --> 02:46:06,850 that was super advanced that's kind of 3534 02:46:11,939 --> 02:46:08,470 an interesting book but there was also a 3535 02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:11,949 real dark side to how they were using 3536 02:46:18,899 --> 02:46:15,520 this technology against us very 3537 02:46:22,050 --> 02:46:18,909 interesting and speaking of that how did 3538 02:46:23,969 --> 02:46:22,060 you with the best of Watchers you have 3539 02:46:26,010 --> 02:46:23,979 all of that great material how did you 3540 02:46:28,860 --> 02:46:26,020 how did you end up it would you do draw 3541 02:46:32,250 --> 02:46:28,870 straws how do you pick the best of Ola 3542 02:46:33,929 --> 02:46:32,260 and I went through a list together and I 3543 02:46:39,599 --> 02:46:33,939 thought you know if we did alien 3544 02:46:42,479 --> 02:46:39,609 implants because you know we know this 3545 02:46:44,130 --> 02:46:42,489 stuff exists it's real it's physical you 3546 02:46:46,229 --> 02:46:44,140 can measure it you can look at it under 3547 02:46:48,599 --> 02:46:46,239 electron microscope you can do EDX 3548 02:46:51,450 --> 02:46:48,609 analysis of it and find out what metals 3549 02:46:54,149 --> 02:46:51,460 these implants are made of and this has 3550 02:46:56,460 --> 02:46:54,159 been done 17 times and we just happen to 3551 02:47:00,389 --> 02:46:56,470 be blessed by getting to work with dr. 3552 02:47:02,939 --> 02:47:00,399 Leir on this so segment one in the best 3553 02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:02,949 of Watchers is the whole alien implant 3554 02:47:06,840 --> 02:47:03,790 saga 3555 02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:06,850 it's basically what was in watcher 7 and 3556 02:47:14,519 --> 02:47:10,000 Watchers 8 the whole implant story from 3557 02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:14,529 detection to x-rays cat scans and then 3558 02:47:19,679 --> 02:47:17,170 finally into surgical removal of it and 3559 02:47:21,719 --> 02:47:19,689 then finally taking the chip the implant 3560 02:47:24,719 --> 02:47:21,729 into the lab and examining it and 3561 02:47:27,780 --> 02:47:24,729 telling you what it's made out of and so 3562 02:47:29,490 --> 02:47:27,790 that's segment 1 and it it's kind of a 3563 02:47:31,769 --> 02:47:29,500 long segment because it's really it's 3564 02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:31,779 very scientific and it goes through a 3565 02:47:37,860 --> 02:47:35,770 step-by-step and I think if someone has 3566 02:47:39,540 --> 02:47:37,870 any doubts about this when you actually 3567 02:47:41,939 --> 02:47:39,550 can see something and hold it in your 3568 02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:41,949 hand and it's a physical object and it 3569 02:47:47,179 --> 02:47:43,600 does not look like anything from this 3570 02:47:51,899 --> 02:47:47,189 earth then you have to you have to say 3571 02:47:55,170 --> 02:47:51,909 you know this is this is real we're not 3572 02:47:58,019 --> 02:47:55,180 just making this up what else is on the 3573 02:47:59,340 --> 02:47:58,029 best of that well I can go through each 3574 02:48:01,679 --> 02:47:59,350 segment really quick with you the 3575 02:48:03,840 --> 02:48:01,689 segment too is the Shroud of Turin where 3576 02:48:06,090 --> 02:48:03,850 we went in and we interviewed the right 3577 02:48:08,809 --> 02:48:06,100 honourable Barry Schwartz who was the 3578 02:48:11,969 --> 02:48:08,819 guy back in the late 70s who actually 3579 02:48:14,040 --> 02:48:11,979 photographed the Shroud and did tests on 3580 02:48:17,070 --> 02:48:14,050 the fabric and all of that and basically 3581 02:48:17,560 --> 02:48:17,080 gives us his ideas of what he thinks it 3582 02:48:21,130 --> 02:48:17,570 is 3583 02:48:23,679 --> 02:48:21,140 and also that we interviewed Dame Isabel 3584 02:48:26,850 --> 02:48:23,689 pixxa who is a particle physicist and 3585 02:48:29,890 --> 02:48:26,860 also a muralist she's actually drawn 3586 02:48:32,560 --> 02:48:29,900 paintings that are in the walls of the 3587 02:48:36,219 --> 02:48:32,570 Vatican and she was kind of like a child 3588 02:48:38,440 --> 02:48:36,229 prodigy and she believed that the image 3589 02:48:42,070 --> 02:48:38,450 on the shroud was created by an event 3590 02:48:45,540 --> 02:48:42,080 horizon that basically imprinted through 3591 02:48:49,420 --> 02:48:45,550 some sort of release of energy the 3592 02:48:52,780 --> 02:48:49,430 projection of of the body of Christ and 3593 02:48:54,610 --> 02:48:52,790 what's interesting about it and until we 3594 02:49:01,480 --> 02:48:54,620 really talked it linked with these two 3595 02:49:05,530 --> 02:49:01,490 folks I didn't realize the reality if 3596 02:49:07,810 --> 02:49:05,540 you were wrapped in a shroud from end to 3597 02:49:10,390 --> 02:49:07,820 end and you were laying on a cold hard 3598 02:49:13,570 --> 02:49:10,400 slab of stone which it was in the garden 3599 02:49:16,480 --> 02:49:13,580 tomb that the skin of your body would be 3600 02:49:20,380 --> 02:49:16,490 you know it weighted down and pushed 3601 02:49:22,960 --> 02:49:20,390 into that that fabric right your your 3602 02:49:25,810 --> 02:49:22,970 legs and your buttocks and your your 3603 02:49:28,390 --> 02:49:25,820 shoulder blades would be smashed into 3604 02:49:31,810 --> 02:49:28,400 that stone right because that's what 3605 02:49:33,640 --> 02:49:31,820 skin does but that's not what we see on 3606 02:49:36,190 --> 02:49:33,650 the imprint of the shroud and the only 3607 02:49:38,500 --> 02:49:36,200 way that that could have happened is if 3608 02:49:42,969 --> 02:49:38,510 the body was levitating when when this 3609 02:49:45,100 --> 02:49:42,979 burst of energy took place and and what 3610 02:49:51,760 --> 02:49:45,110 else that's really fascinating to me 3611 02:49:55,360 --> 02:49:51,770 yeah yeah the I am I I I think that it's 3612 02:49:58,480 --> 02:49:55,370 real right I think that the shroud is 3613 02:50:00,730 --> 02:49:58,490 not a hoax right I don't think it was 3614 02:50:04,360 --> 02:50:00,740 manufactured but I don't either I think 3615 02:50:07,600 --> 02:50:04,370 after talking to especially Barry who 3616 02:50:10,330 --> 02:50:07,610 has snow you know dog in the hunt 3617 02:50:12,250 --> 02:50:10,340 essentially varies Jewish so I mean you 3618 02:50:13,780 --> 02:50:12,260 know talking about Jesus Christ it's not 3619 02:50:15,580 --> 02:50:13,790 something that would come up in his 3620 02:50:17,830 --> 02:50:15,590 normal conversation and I know how my 3621 02:50:20,560 --> 02:50:17,840 rabbi friends are and I have to kind of 3622 02:50:22,300 --> 02:50:20,570 be very careful with them and and yet I 3623 02:50:24,840 --> 02:50:22,310 get questions all the time about these 3624 02:50:27,760 --> 02:50:24,850 things so I think it's a very 3625 02:50:29,410 --> 02:50:27,770 interesting relationship that I have 3626 02:50:30,870 --> 02:50:29,420 with my Jewish friends and that I've 3627 02:50:34,440 --> 02:50:30,880 worked on with the Torah codes 3628 02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:34,450 but you know Barry was is is was very 3629 02:50:40,170 --> 02:50:36,640 neutral about the whole thing he was 3630 02:50:43,710 --> 02:50:40,180 approaching it as a scientist and had 3631 02:50:47,580 --> 02:50:43,720 incredible camera equipment and there's 3632 02:50:51,630 --> 02:50:47,590 not any paint on this thing there's not 3633 02:50:55,380 --> 02:50:51,640 any evidence of burning or anything like 3634 02:50:58,560 --> 02:50:55,390 that this is like an image that was 3635 02:50:59,670 --> 02:50:58,570 somehow itched into this fabric and we 3636 02:51:02,550 --> 02:50:59,680 don't know how it was done 3637 02:51:05,820 --> 02:51:02,560 yeah right exactly one is yeah yeah DVD 3638 02:51:08,340 --> 02:51:05,830 come out DVDs ready now I mean you can 3639 02:51:11,580 --> 02:51:08,350 go to my website or LA's website if you 3640 02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:11,590 go to pin light comm you can order it 3641 02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:14,410 there it's 2 hours and 23 minutes it was 3642 02:51:19,020 --> 02:51:17,590 a really in-depth thing because the 3643 02:51:20,730 --> 02:51:19,030 biggest complaint that we got through 3644 02:51:23,010 --> 02:51:20,740 the years is that Watchers isn't quality 3645 02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:23,020 enough so I told all I said you know I'm 3646 02:51:26,730 --> 02:51:25,120 going to put I'm going to put a beefy 3647 02:51:29,820 --> 02:51:26,740 amount of information each of these 3648 02:51:32,190 --> 02:51:29,830 things so we have like the skulls and 3649 02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:32,200 stone from Peru we have segments that 3650 02:51:36,990 --> 02:51:34,000 were in Watchers on the Torah codes 3651 02:51:39,870 --> 02:51:37,000 we've got the giant of Kandahar we've 3652 02:51:42,570 --> 02:51:39,880 got the Catalina cover-up which really 3653 02:51:45,540 --> 02:51:42,580 is fascinating yeah we have remember 3654 02:51:48,510 --> 02:51:45,550 gosh UFO which I did an analysis where 3655 02:51:51,090 --> 02:51:48,520 you can see the actual aliens you know 3656 02:51:52,770 --> 02:51:51,100 with their faces sticking out the side 3657 02:51:56,429 --> 02:51:52,780 of the craft I mean this is something 3658 02:51:59,310 --> 02:51:56,439 that dr. Leir gave me his master of that 3659 02:52:02,670 --> 02:51:59,320 video that was shot in 2009 in Turkey 3660 02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:02,680 and I put it into the computer and did 3661 02:52:07,770 --> 02:52:05,110 tests on it and enlarged it and slowed 3662 02:52:10,710 --> 02:52:07,780 it down and when I did that I'm going oh 3663 02:52:12,540 --> 02:52:10,720 my gosh there's several other creatures 3664 02:52:14,670 --> 02:52:12,550 here that don't you don't normally see 3665 02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:14,680 in to you and large them and they're 3666 02:52:19,350 --> 02:52:16,810 there you can see their heads turning 3667 02:52:21,750 --> 02:52:19,360 and their eyes and the reflection off 3668 02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:21,760 their eyeballs I mean you can see all of 3669 02:52:27,900 --> 02:52:24,010 that wow wow wow 3670 02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:27,910 I can't wait to see that yeah I want to 3671 02:52:34,380 --> 02:52:31,840 thank you Richard again and and I can't 3672 02:52:37,560 --> 02:52:34,390 wait for the the perhaps the press 3673 02:52:39,300 --> 02:52:37,570 conference on February 2nd oh yeah 3674 02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:39,310 that's we're getting ready for that too 3675 02:52:42,929 --> 02:52:41,050 that's a big deal it's coming up really 3676 02:52:43,550 --> 02:52:42,939 soon yeah you've got a lot of stuff on 3677 02:52:45,410 --> 02:52:43,560 your plate my 3678 02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:45,420 friend and thank you for taking the time 3679 02:52:49,099 --> 02:52:47,130 and hanging out and then we'll get you 3680 02:52:51,590 --> 02:52:49,109 back on the show that's my pleasure 3681 02:52:54,200 --> 02:52:51,600 after the press release and the press 3682 02:52:54,889 --> 02:52:54,210 conference again thank you so much thank 3683 02:52:57,859 --> 02:52:54,899 you Jimmy 3684 02:53:01,490 --> 02:52:57,869 you got it Richard Shaw everybody now it 3685 02:53:04,399 --> 02:53:01,500 is very simple it spin light pin light 3686 02:53:06,260 --> 02:53:04,409 comm if you go over to Jimmy Church 3687 02:53:07,519 --> 02:53:06,270 radio comm just click on Richards name 3688 02:53:09,500 --> 02:53:07,529 right that will take you straight over 3689 02:53:12,260 --> 02:53:09,510 to pin light comm where the best of 3690 02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:12,270 Watchers is available and also the 3691 02:53:15,469 --> 02:53:14,010 information if you do want to attend the 3692 02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:15,479 press conference I think you can do that 3693 02:53:19,309 --> 02:53:16,770 too as well but you've got to do through 3694 02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:19,319 the website and and go and check that 3695 02:53:25,790 --> 02:53:23,520 out and an address location times for 3696 02:53:28,700 --> 02:53:25,800 the press conference on February 2nd are 3697 02:53:30,800 --> 02:53:28,710 right there want to thank Richard Shaw 3698 02:53:34,069 --> 02:53:30,810 great conversation tonight but I am 3699 02:53:39,229 --> 02:53:34,079 serious about this aspect of it I'm what 3700 02:53:42,139 --> 02:53:39,239 I'm talking about living virtually on a 3701 02:53:44,240 --> 02:53:42,149 computer chip I'm looking at some of 3702 02:53:46,099 --> 02:53:44,250 your comments here in Twitter and one of 3703 02:53:48,319 --> 02:53:46,109 them is well consciousness is one thing 3704 02:53:54,849 --> 02:53:48,329 memories are one things but the soul is 3705 02:53:57,950 --> 02:53:54,859 the other I wouldn't it all be together 3706 02:54:00,979 --> 02:53:57,960 if you're gonna download I know this is 3707 02:54:04,340 --> 02:54:00,989 a question that we all have really you 3708 02:54:09,290 --> 02:54:04,350 know so but if you went and did that you 3709 02:54:11,929 --> 02:54:09,300 did a brain dump on to a chip and you 3710 02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:11,939 existed there isn't it 3711 02:54:21,410 --> 02:54:16,880 all of you I'm just saying the I'm I'm 3712 02:54:24,740 --> 02:54:21,420 assuming that memories are ones and 3713 02:54:27,740 --> 02:54:24,750 zeros I understand that but your soul 3714 02:54:29,719 --> 02:54:27,750 has to be electronic too as well that's 3715 02:54:32,149 --> 02:54:29,729 got to be positives and negatives that's 3716 02:54:36,950 --> 02:54:32,159 got to be ones and zeroes it would have 3717 02:54:39,979 --> 02:54:36,960 to be right but let's just say that you 3718 02:54:44,120 --> 02:54:39,989 are now living on a chip do you have and 3719 02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:44,130 you're immortal now what happens to laws 3720 02:54:52,420 --> 02:54:47,760 what happens to morality because if you 3721 02:54:54,800 --> 02:54:52,430 died on the chip you could then be 3722 02:54:56,660 --> 02:54:54,810 re-uploaded again and you would continue 3723 02:54:58,939 --> 02:54:56,670 living right 3724 02:55:01,910 --> 02:54:58,949 so what happens if we take death off of 3725 02:55:06,349 --> 02:55:01,920 the table and what happens with heaven 3726 02:55:09,320 --> 02:55:06,359 and hell in that case if they exist if 3727 02:55:12,139 --> 02:55:09,330 you are living on a chip what what 3728 02:55:14,540 --> 02:55:12,149 what's going on there and and if 3729 02:55:17,210 --> 02:55:14,550 everybody else in this artificial 3730 02:55:20,149 --> 02:55:17,220 reality doesn't have any concerns of 3731 02:55:22,219 --> 02:55:20,159 life and death or reincarnation because 3732 02:55:25,189 --> 02:55:22,229 the reincarnation happens off of the 3733 02:55:27,530 --> 02:55:25,199 uploading of yourself once again these 3734 02:55:32,269 --> 02:55:27,540 are all things that we have to consider 3735 02:55:35,450 --> 02:55:32,279 so then what do you have do you have 3736 02:55:39,800 --> 02:55:35,460 police yeah you would you would have to 3737 02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:39,810 have the moral police I would right you 3738 02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:42,810 could have the sole police but that's 3739 02:55:50,090 --> 02:55:46,010 what would have to happen in that world 3740 02:55:53,330 --> 02:55:50,100 I'm not it's something that I just wrap 3741 02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:53,340 my head around and try to think about 3742 02:55:58,219 --> 02:55:56,010 this as often as I can because with 3743 02:56:02,349 --> 02:55:58,229 everybody out there that is obviously 3744 02:56:06,139 --> 02:56:02,359 dealing with the neural connectivity to 3745 02:56:09,740 --> 02:56:06,149 computers and the ability to make that 3746 02:56:12,469 --> 02:56:09,750 leap and to get yourself on to you know 3747 02:56:15,139 --> 02:56:12,479 what what happens and this is the other 3748 02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:15,149 thing can two of you exist at the same 3749 02:56:21,260 --> 02:56:17,520 time and this is what I'm saying 3750 02:56:23,899 --> 02:56:21,270 you download yourself right you download 3751 02:56:28,519 --> 02:56:23,909 yourself you upload yourself onto do you 3752 02:56:33,950 --> 02:56:28,529 have to what your current self that is 3753 02:56:35,780 --> 02:56:33,960 alive in your body to you and that do 3754 02:56:39,769 --> 02:56:35,790 you have two minds going at the same 3755 02:56:44,269 --> 02:56:39,779 time what's right or does one have to 3756 02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:44,279 end for the other to continue do you 3757 02:56:49,160 --> 02:56:46,560 understand what I'm saying because the 3758 02:56:51,530 --> 02:56:49,170 the possibilities when it comes to 3759 02:56:53,809 --> 02:56:51,540 quantum mechanics and quantum theory if 3760 02:56:56,689 --> 02:56:53,819 you have two identical things operating 3761 02:56:59,450 --> 02:56:56,699 at the same time then you are living in 3762 02:57:03,469 --> 02:56:59,460 both right hmm 3763 02:57:07,850 --> 02:57:03,479 so do you at that instant you upload 3764 02:57:12,250 --> 02:57:07,860 yourself onto a chip to be immortal 3765 02:57:15,650 --> 02:57:12,260 do you end your life out here 3766 02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:15,660 can the two exist at the same time these 3767 02:57:20,330 --> 02:57:18,090 are all questions that have to be 3768 02:57:23,810 --> 02:57:20,340 answered at Sandia 3769 02:57:26,900 --> 02:57:23,820 or DARPA at the Google complex where 3770 02:57:29,480 --> 02:57:26,910 they are doing this right now right now 3771 02:57:33,470 --> 02:57:29,490 as we speak and I've said it before if 3772 02:57:38,330 --> 02:57:33,480 I'm Bill Gates right if I'm Zuckerberg 3773 02:57:40,700 --> 02:57:38,340 if I'm Bezos or Elon Musk and you're 3774 02:57:42,950 --> 02:57:40,710 sitting on that kind of money the 3775 02:57:46,700 --> 02:57:42,960 questions that all of those billionaires 3776 02:57:49,580 --> 02:57:46,710 have had all those rich men the 3777 02:57:51,620 --> 02:57:49,590 industrialists they want to live forever 3778 02:57:53,810 --> 02:57:51,630 they don't want to die right they don't 3779 02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:53,820 want to die so you know that those guys 3780 02:57:59,540 --> 02:57:56,160 are working on this right now they have 3781 02:58:02,930 --> 02:57:59,550 to be I would I'd be wanting to try to 3782 02:58:04,970 --> 02:58:02,940 figure this out so what are we doing 3783 02:58:08,030 --> 02:58:04,980 with all of those moral questions that I 3784 02:58:10,930 --> 02:58:08,040 present right here what would you do how 3785 02:58:13,430 --> 02:58:10,940 would you handle it think about that 3786 02:58:15,710 --> 02:58:13,440 fade to black and want to thank it 3787 02:58:18,140 --> 02:58:15,720 concludes another excellent episode of 3788 02:58:21,610 --> 02:58:18,150 fade to black got to thank la Marzulli 3789 02:58:24,110 --> 02:58:21,620 for coming in tonight Richard Shaw 3790 02:58:25,790 --> 02:58:24,120 amazing conversations fade to black so 3791 02:58:28,690 --> 02:58:25,800 executive producer it's Rita Kumari on 3792 02:58:31,850 --> 02:58:28,700 shows produced by Hill J palm and Renee 3793 02:58:34,280 --> 02:58:31,860 Dennis and Bob announcers our Steve 3794 02:58:37,250 --> 02:58:34,290 harder Jean Patou and Mark D Cove our 3795 02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:37,260 webmaster drew the GEEP music doug 3796 02:58:42,890 --> 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